Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Aug 17th 2006, 2:01 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Lynne
It doesn't bear thinking about.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
Aug 17th 2006, 2:04 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Bob
It would have reset the clock on your waiting list because you turned it down...labour government is quite sneeky in how they can botch some of the figures together....
Aug 17th 2006, 2:06 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
I thought it might, it's probably a 50/50 thing between the Government and the NHS Trust involved, it's a shame it's come down to number crunching and middle managers. When I did have the op, the level of care was on a par with the stuff you receive over here, but for free.
Aug 17th 2006, 2:33 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Hardly free Gruff....but know whatcha mean.
Aug 17th 2006, 2:40 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Uplifting story about the NHS;
My mother was commuting in London and found that every time she had to take the stairs v. escalator in the mid nineties she got out of breath. Funnily enough the reasons the escalators were shut off were due to terrorism) Complaint to GP = 2 month wait to see a specialist. Within a week from seeing the specialist she had a triple heart bypass at Papworth Hospital.
Take the story as you will. My Mums condition threatened her life, therefore she was seen to rather quickly. Nobody goes to the press about such stories.
My mother was commuting in London and found that every time she had to take the stairs v. escalator in the mid nineties she got out of breath. Funnily enough the reasons the escalators were shut off were due to terrorism) Complaint to GP = 2 month wait to see a specialist. Within a week from seeing the specialist she had a triple heart bypass at Papworth Hospital.
Take the story as you will. My Mums condition threatened her life, therefore she was seen to rather quickly. Nobody goes to the press about such stories.
Aug 17th 2006, 2:55 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Lynne
It doesn't bear thinking about.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
Aug 17th 2006, 3:10 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
You know what I mean, no cash changed hands, that's free.
Aug 17th 2006, 3:24 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
My father went to the doc with a 'back pain' six times and had two hospital stays including morphine before someone finally thought of calling a neurologist. That is how I remember the NHS.
Aug 17th 2006, 11:18 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
I waited 15 months for an Inguinal Hernia operation on the NHS, normal spiel from the doctor "If you throw up or pass out, contact us" They cunningly phoned me the week before Christmas, to tell me they had a cancellation and could fit me in on Christmas Eve, which would have put me under the 1 year waiting time. I turned it down, I guess it was good for their waiting list figures?
My DH was FINALLY diagnosed at age 40 to have a hole in his heart which explained many problems he had had over the years. Anyway, NHS put him on waiting list for the operation-2 years, because it was not "life threatening."
Aug 17th 2006, 12:54 pm
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Lynne
It doesn't bear thinking about.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
I can understand the doctors not wanting to do a replacement of a replacement. When the old one is taken out, they have to remove another couple of inches of the femur in order to make sure the join is cemented properly. For my dad's second hip he only had half of his original femur left, and he had to use a walking stick all the time. By the third one 10 year later, he had virtually no femur left, it didn't improve his condition one bit, and he was on crutches for the rest of his life. So it's not all about saving money.
Aug 20th 2006, 9:19 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by cindyabs
My DH was FINALLY diagnosed at age 40 to have a hole in his heart which explained many problems he had had over the years. Anyway, NHS put him on waiting list for the operation-2 years, because it was not "life threatening."
Well......he had lasted 40 yrs already
Think the stats are around 8% of population have congenital holes in heart.....the concern is that a clot can get thru, causing a stroke. Has he had it fixed? It's usually an easy op, patient is awake, little gadget is inserted via the femoral vein....
Aug 20th 2006, 9:23 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Lynne
It doesn't bear thinking about.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
The only real stories hear about the NHS come from my in-laws who are currently at that "piss and moan about everything stage".
Recently I got an email from a friend of mine whose mum lives just outside London. For the last ten years at least, she has suffered with a pain in her hip. She is now walking with a cane, taking pain pills 24/7 and has to limit going up and down stairs to a minimum because of the pain. Fortunately she lives on one level. When I asked my friend what the actual problem was and why nothing was being done, she informed me that her mum's hip needed replacing but the specialist she has seen said that she is not considered a severe case, plus she is under 75 (she is now 71). A severe case is being totally immobile. When I asked my friend WTF age has to do with it, surely it's the quality of life, she said that they don't like doing them on under 75's unless it's absolutely necessary because a hip joint only has a life of ten years so if they wait until you are 75 it should see you until you croak. What happened to doctors doing what is best for patients. Had she been here she probably would have had a new hips several years ago and enjoying a much better quality of life.
Secondly, life of a hip replacement is usually 20 yrs....and the othopods r really good at redoing them when they need an update.
Aug 20th 2006, 9:42 am
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Re: Hospital fined for treating patients too quickly
Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
Well......he had lasted 40 yrs already
Think the stats are around 8% of population have congenital holes in heart.....the concern is that a clot can get thru, causing a stroke. Has he had it fixed? It's usually an easy op, patient is awake, little gadget is inserted via the femoral vein....
Think the stats are around 8% of population have congenital holes in heart.....the concern is that a clot can get thru, causing a stroke. Has he had it fixed? It's usually an easy op, patient is awake, little gadget is inserted via the femoral vein....
Er no, not quite that easy peasey, they cracked his chest, needless to say he was not awake. :scared:
However, had it been diagnosed sooner he no doubt would have had an easier time of it growing up.
