Glenn Beck and Fox News Part Ways
Apr 11th 2011, 7:01 am
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Re: Glenn Beck and Fox News Part Ways
I still feel short changed but I suppose that's what you get for listening to a politician.
I'm probably still going to vote for him but really it's just a lesser of two evils. In 25 years time we're probably still going to be a nation in debt, paying over the odds for healthcare and education while haemorrhaging millions of $$$ of some other unjust f**king military action. Most of that isn't his fault but I thought he was going to bring 'change'? I suppose he's still trying to remove Bush's knob from America's arse, perhaps once that's done things will improve
I remain a cynic, and I probably always will. I wonder if the Chinese will allow me to be one when we're their bitches?
I'm probably still going to vote for him but really it's just a lesser of two evils. In 25 years time we're probably still going to be a nation in debt, paying over the odds for healthcare and education while haemorrhaging millions of $$$ of some other unjust f**king military action. Most of that isn't his fault but I thought he was going to bring 'change'? I suppose he's still trying to remove Bush's knob from America's arse, perhaps once that's done things will improve
I remain a cynic, and I probably always will. I wonder if the Chinese will allow me to be one when we're their bitches?
Apr 11th 2011, 7:01 am
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Apr 11th 2011, 7:05 am
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Even then - when he was voted in he had a chance to grab the USA by the balls and say "this is how it is going to be" and start setting us right in the eyes of the rest of the world. I know many people, including myself thought the US had finally got it right in 2008.
Unfortunately, while he has done some good (cynicism aside); I wonder if he will be remembered as just another OK pres; or if he will actually do something in a second term to be remembered as a great one?
Either way, I'd rather have 4 more years of OK, than endure 4 years of anything the republicans have been putting out there recently!
Apr 11th 2011, 7:11 am
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Perhaps, but he was a senator for the 4 years prior to the election, so he should have had some idea, making electioneering more likely.
Even then - when he was voted in he had a chance to grab the USA by the balls and say "this is how it is going to be" and start setting us right in the eyes of the rest of the world. I know many people, including myself thought the US had finally got it right in 2008.
Unfortunately, while he has done some good (cynicism aside); I wonder if he will be remembered as just another OK pres; or if he will actually do something in a second term to be remembered as a great one?
Either way, I'd rather have 4 more years of OK, than endure 4 years of anything the republicans have been putting out there recently!
Even then - when he was voted in he had a chance to grab the USA by the balls and say "this is how it is going to be" and start setting us right in the eyes of the rest of the world. I know many people, including myself thought the US had finally got it right in 2008.
Unfortunately, while he has done some good (cynicism aside); I wonder if he will be remembered as just another OK pres; or if he will actually do something in a second term to be remembered as a great one?
Either way, I'd rather have 4 more years of OK, than endure 4 years of anything the republicans have been putting out there recently!
Apr 11th 2011, 7:12 am
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Apr 11th 2011, 7:17 am
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I agree though, I'd rather have another 4yrs of OK than the alternative. The only problem is convincing 51% of the voting public.
Apr 11th 2011, 7:23 am
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He was a on a hiding to nothing following on from the mess the previous president left (which leads to many conspiracy theories that the Republicans intentionally chose Palin as a running mate in order to throw the election).
I agree though, I'd rather have another 4yrs of OK than the alternative. The only problem is convincing 51% of the voting public.
I agree though, I'd rather have another 4yrs of OK than the alternative. The only problem is convincing 51% of the voting public.
From my viewpoint across the pond in the UK (albeit mostly as a teenager), I always thought Bill Clinton was a decent pres. From what I can tell, a few people out here would agree with that. Deep down I believe Al Gore would have probably carried on his good work, but I could be wrong. The biggest mistake was allowing Bush to win that 2000 election IMHO.
I suppose the best option for Obama is to spend his next term continuing the clean up, and pave the way for a truly progressive Democratic ticket for 2016 and hopefully by then the USA will be back on track. I'd have a lot more faith restored in this country if something like that could happen
Apr 11th 2011, 7:25 am
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Perhaps I was being a little hard on him, considering the mess he inherited.
From my viewpoint across the pond in the UK (albeit mostly as a teenager), I always thought Bill Clinton was a decent pres. From what I can tell, a few people out here would agree with that. Deep down I believe Al Gore would have probably carried on his good work, but I could be wrong. The biggest mistake was allowing Bush to win that 2000 election IMHO.
I suppose the best option for Obama is to spend his next term continuing the clean up, and pave the way for a truly progressive Democratic ticket for 2016 and hopefully by then the USA will be back on track. I'd have a lot more faith restored in this country if something like that could happen
From my viewpoint across the pond in the UK (albeit mostly as a teenager), I always thought Bill Clinton was a decent pres. From what I can tell, a few people out here would agree with that. Deep down I believe Al Gore would have probably carried on his good work, but I could be wrong. The biggest mistake was allowing Bush to win that 2000 election IMHO.
I suppose the best option for Obama is to spend his next term continuing the clean up, and pave the way for a truly progressive Democratic ticket for 2016 and hopefully by then the USA will be back on track. I'd have a lot more faith restored in this country if something like that could happen
Apr 11th 2011, 7:26 am
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But am I being naive though - would things be radically different now if Obama had been following on from 8 years of Al Gore, instead of GWB? I rather think they would, and in a good way too.
Apr 11th 2011, 7:51 am
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So maybe only famous comedians are best suited for politics......
Apr 11th 2011, 7:53 am
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Apr 11th 2011, 7:59 am
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Apr 11th 2011, 8:32 am
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Re: Glenn Beck and Fox News Part Ways
Careful what you wish for. The last thing we need is for Dem voters to get complacent and think 'we've got it in the bag' - only to not bother voting and those two numpties actually get in
There's got to be a moderate in there somewhere who can run so that if the Reps do win, at least we've got someone who has their head screwed on. That's just wishful thinking isn't it.
On the other hand, if Obama does get back in, do you think he'll grow some balls for his 2nd term?
I'm pretty neutral, I hate ALL politicians
There's got to be a moderate in there somewhere who can run so that if the Reps do win, at least we've got someone who has their head screwed on. That's just wishful thinking isn't it.
On the other hand, if Obama does get back in, do you think he'll grow some balls for his 2nd term?
I'm pretty neutral, I hate ALL politicians
Today that number is zero. The center of the conservative rating system is 50 on a scale of 0-100. Up until recently Collins and Snow from Maine had conservative ratings in the 40s and 50s but have moved into the 60s. John McCain had ratings in the low 60s and has moved to the high 90s changing him from a moderate senator to the most conservative senator in the senate.
Apr 11th 2011, 8:38 am
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In 1982 there were 58 senators that crossed party lines and had a more liberal voting record then at least one democrat if they were a republican or voted more conservatively than a republican if they were a democrat.
Today that number is zero. The center of the conservative rating system is 50 on a scale of 0-100. Up until recently Collins and Snow from Maine had conservative ratings in the 40s and 50s but have moved into the 60s. John McCain had ratings in the low 60s and has moved to the high 90s changing him from a moderate senator to the most conservative senator in the senate.
Today that number is zero. The center of the conservative rating system is 50 on a scale of 0-100. Up until recently Collins and Snow from Maine had conservative ratings in the 40s and 50s but have moved into the 60s. John McCain had ratings in the low 60s and has moved to the high 90s changing him from a moderate senator to the most conservative senator in the senate.
