Re: Getting tired of the USA
 

If you grow your own apples and cook your own pie, yes.

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I've had some ok apple pie from a local baker, but certainly not bramleys

Re: Getting tired of the USA
 

Exactly. OP: there are more than two countries in the world, so maybe you should try a third, since the first two didn't work for you. You might get lucky.

You didn't say what family you have. If none at all, then certainly move to a third country. Many years ago, in my mid-twenties and newly married, I moved from Canada to the West Indies (Bahamas) for a few years. Left, then seven years later moved from England to the Caribbean (Cayman) with the same wife and a young son, and have stayed ever since. There are plenty of places to be happy, if one can be bothered looking for them.

Today, in our seventies, the (same) wife and I are finding Cayman too expensive for comfort, and are looking to move to Mexico for at least part of each year. Or maybe one of the Spanish islands. Or Cyprus. Or - who knows? The world's a big place.

Re: Getting tired of the USA
 

My usc wife feels that she missed out on good cake all the years before she met me. She had just assumed all cake tasted terrible

Re: Getting tired of the USA
 

My experience is that moving somewhere doesn't necessarily improve your mood, perhaps you're just depressed and are projecting on the place around you? Maybe you should go on vacation.

It occurred me with this whole Brexit nonsense watching expats interviewed on the TV that it has never crossed my mind to move back to the UK. Never even in passing. Glad I don't live there, only gotten gladder since.

I don't care how many books about it Bill Bryson writes, he's wrong. It's a crappy little island off the coast of Europe full of people whose main hobby is moaning endlessly and more alarmingly, fantasizing about how great things were in the old days and acting as though they know better than everyone else which is why they had an Empire and subsequently lost it.

Canada is better because everyone here knows that no-one gives a crap about what we think.

America is better because some parts of it have better weather. And at least the US can make a legitimate claim to still being a superpower, even if spending all that money on: "defense" means the infrastructure is collapsing and you have to take out a second mortgage to get a prescription filled.

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A harsh judgment, Steve. I'm happy to have become English in recent years, after an Australian upbringing. I like most of the English I've met, both in England and in foreign parts; my experience has apparently been more pleasant than yours. I would live in England rather than Australia, for instance, although I've nothing against the latter. My English friends are never boring about the Good Old Days; I guess they must be more pleasant people than your English friends. There are sixty million English, or near enough; you and I have just met different selections of them, that's all.

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I agree with Robin - most American desserts are sickeningly sweet. My mother used to make us "pudding" almost every day - apple pie, steamed pudding, suet pudding, rice pudding, the list goes on ..... but while all were "sweet", none were as excessively sweet as virtually all American desserts. I like a good brownie, or a pecan pie, but both are an occasional treat, not part of my daily diet.

Oh, and you can take your smores and shove 'em. Somehow somebody worked out how to replace all the flavour with sweetness, then apparently added more sugar, and called it a "smore". :blink: No thanks. :sick:

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So I know you probably weren't looking for apple pie recipes, but you seriously need to try this. It is, hands down, the best apple pie ever. Yes, you have to make it yourself but it's actually pretty easy. I do it with a dutch crunch topping instead of pastry: Best Apple Pie in America

Re: Getting tired of the USA
 

I don't particularly like much in the way of store-bought desserts. Cake frosting is too thick and too sweet, cream is too thick and has no flavour etc. Have to say, though, that there are some bloody good American recipes out there.

P.S. We need to tread carefully or the pooper will start posting more pictures of his food...

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Yes, far too much sugar, it's irritating, you go to the restaurant, you see the nice cake and dessert and take some and as soon as you start eating it the excessive sweetness puts you off, I don't know why they don't have the sense to put less sugar in it.

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Well, they don't have the sense not to put marshmallows in their vegetables, so... :rofl:

Re: Getting tired of the USA
 

I always found it was hard to get into "a struggle" with the people here. They dont back off from a fight if provoked but at the same time they don't go out of their way to provoke one either.

Seriously though just go home. You either integrate or don't. After 9 years you obviously havent

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Things very from region to region and an hour away can be completely different. Most of the people here are very defensive and get irrationally bent out of shape over complete nonsense. They seem to need cliques and enemies. I would put money on that at least 50% of the white people in the (small) city have a personality disorder.

When I lived in the South I had zero problems with neighbors. When I lived in a very big city two hours from here I had zero problems with neighbors or people in general. I'm not saying I never encountered a rude cashier but it was none of this people blowing up at you.

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I reckon the OP hasn't been "home" as of late. Plenty of anger and hostility there, especially if you're a "traitor" (and OP's 9 years away may qualify in some eyes). And it's not likely to get much better anytime soon.

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I suspect this may be a fly-by posted thread, so I very much doubt we'll hear back from the OP.

As has already been stated, if you can't find somewhere to be happy in these 50 states, then personally, I don't think you should be looking at a different country!

Instead, you should be looking for some help.

After all, the difference between living in, say, Birmingham, is totally different to living in London, or Manchester, or the Lake District, or... well, you get the idea.

As for desserts, is that the be all and end all of living somewhere? Personally, I'm not a fan of Hershey's 'candy' chocolate compared to Cadbury's, but that doesn't have me wanting to go back to England. Same is true for apple pie or cake, or bacon, or anything else that's different. I either find a source (there are British-style butchers that do mail order) or Amazon has a wealth of British foods available, not to mention the British food stores found in just about every big city.

All this is to say that any of this is just an excuse for a much deeper problem. I strongly suggest you treat that issue before investing in moving round the world!