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Old Oct 24th 2014, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze
So, generally fish is minging.

It's cod and chips that's proper.

I can do, say sea bass & chorizo, something like that.

Apparently I do a damned good fish and chips as well as lobster thermidor.

Steak (black and blue) rules.

I struggle with the concept of the North extending further south than York.

Have I missed anything?
Nope, reckon you got it covered there!
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Hey, you're the one that started with the "My names P and I'm a southerner" .....
I might have. It depends which side of the pond I am on.

As Lynyrd Skynyrd said "American by naturalization, Southern by the grace of God." Or something like that.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
I might have. It depends which side of the pond I am on.

As Lynyrd Skynyrd said "American by naturalization, Southern by the grace of God." Or something like that.
That's getting horribly close to the old "I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could" bumper stickers...
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Speaking of Fish ... I just got my blood test results tonight from my annual physical. My Cholesterol is the lowest it's been in 10 years - 191, down from 236 in 2005, and my 'ratio' is now at 3.4, which is considered very good. My LDL ('bad') cholesterol is also at its lowest, 119 down from 161 in 2005.

Back in 2005, my doctor told me I'd have to go on medications if I didn't get it down, so since then I've been working on diet and lifestyle changes ... seems to be working! The great thing is, I feel better and enjoy what I eat now more than in 2005.
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
I've fallen in love with 'Cedar Plank Salmon' ... I thought it was a fad when I first saw it in restaurants, but after eating a few, I was converted. Basically, soak a cedar plank in wine for a few hours (water will do), then put the salmon on the plank, then toss it on the BBQ for 15 mins. The plank smolders and smokes and steams, and you end up with a mixture of steamed/smoked/roasted fish - still moist inside but toasted/smoked also. If the plank actually bursts into flames, have a water spray bottle on hand to douse the flames.

Just did a couple of halibut steaks last week the same way - see pics below. That was expensive halibut ... about $40 worth - but it was exquisite! Tilapia works surprisingly well also, and is dirt cheap.

I've picked up individual planks at Safeway and Whole Foods, but now I get them in bulk from Amazon, works out a few bucks per plank.
You and I are the only ones to list halibut. It must be a west coast thing, I wonder if fresh halibut is even available beyond the pacific coast from central California to Alaska? A magnificent fish.
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You and I are the only ones to list halibut. It must be a west coast thing, I wonder if fresh halibut is even available beyond the pacific coast from central California to Alaska? A magnificent fish.
We can get it here...but it's usually frozen and/or horridly expensive.
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We can get it here...but it's usually frozen and/or horridly expensive.
I've never really been into halibut - I think that is what Mam used to get from the Fish Van every Tuesday, then she would grill it until every last ounce of moisture had been banished and serve it with peas (not mushy) and mash. She was a great cook in general, but something went seriously haywire when she got near fish.....
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This thread, and possibly the autumnal weather (ha I can't even type that without laughing) has given me a hankering for smoked haddock poached in milk.

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Originally Posted by BubbleChog
..... smoked haddock poached in milk. ....
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I've never really been into halibut - I think that is what Mam used to get from the Fish Van every Tuesday, then she would grill it until every last ounce of moisture had been banished and serve it with peas (not mushy) and mash. She was a great cook in general, but something went seriously haywire when she got near fish.....
The first time I had halibut was at a Spanish-style brasseria in Gloucester where the "menu" was a chilled display counter with steak, lamb, pork, and a variety of seafood. You never knew what was going to be in display counter, and one day a sizeable part of the space was taken up with a whole halibut, with a big piece already cut out- it was almost round, and about 3ft across. It was cooked perfectly, baked in foil IIRC, and perhaps the best fish meal I have ever had, it was moist, tender and just wonderful.

My mother tried to replicate the experience at home a few weeks later with a halibut steak she bought, and it was both overcooked and simultaneously "watery", and all-round unpleasant to eat.
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Originally Posted by BubbleChog
This thread, and possibly the autumnal weather (ha I can't even type that without laughing) has given me a hankering for smoked haddock poached in milk.

Lx

With a couple of poached eggs on top. Alas my local source only has the kippers in stock, no smoked haddock.
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Originally Posted by BubbleChog
This thread, and possibly the autumnal weather (ha I can't even type that without laughing) has given me a hankering for smoked haddock poached in milk.

Lx
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Today's luch,North Yorkshire style......
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Originally Posted by Beaverstate
You and I are the only ones to list halibut. It must be a west coast thing, I wonder if fresh halibut is even available beyond the pacific coast from central California to Alaska? A magnificent fish.
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We can get it here...but it's usually frozen and/or horridly expensive.
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The first time I had halibut was at a Spanish-style brasseria in Gloucester where the "menu" was a chilled display counter with steak, lamb, pork, and a variety of seafood. You never knew what was going to be in display counter, and one day a sizeable part of the space was taken up with a whole halibut, with a big piece already cut out- it was almost round, and about 3ft across. It was cooked perfectly, baked in foil IIRC, and perhaps the best fish meal I have ever had, it was moist, tender and just wonderful.

My mother tried to replicate the experience at home a few weeks later with a halibut steak she bought, and it was both overcooked and simultaneously "watery", and all-round unpleasant to eat.
While the quality of all 'food types' (fish, meat, vegetables, fruit, etc) varies, I believe that fish quality varies the most, and the effect is the most noticeable. With meat, at least there's a standard rating system - select, choice, prime - that lets you know at least 'something' about the product. A standard 'select' steak from Safeway is going to be way, way inferior to a prime steak from a high end source (and less than half the price), for example.

So when it comes to fish, I will only buy it from higher-end sources (Whole Foods, etc), even though I know they are rip-offs in terms of pricing. The halibut I posted a picture of above, for example, was $27/lb - that's an outrageous price (I would normally have just picked an alternate type of fish but this was for a special request). I've tried picking up a piece of salmon 'on sale' at Safeway, for example, and it was utterly disgusting. And my success with any frozen fish has been less than stellar.

I think that for those getting their feet wet with fish, it's worth at least starting with expensive sources ... at least until you have established a 'baseline' for what good fish should taste like.

I would bet that Costco fish is very good, and they have a lot of selections these days, but I just can't deal with the quantities. While commercial freezing may treat fish well, home freezing is another story - results in 'wet' fish for me.
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
A standard 'select' steak from Safeway is going to be way, way inferior to a prime steak from a high end source (and less than half the price), for example.
I grew up eating UDSA Select (called USDA Good prior to 1987) steaks so I like the taste and texture much more than USDA Prime or Choice. USDA Select isn't as tender due to the lack of marbling but that lack of tenderness is what I like about USDA Select steaks (I don't like steaks that come apart because of the marbling and reminds me more of a pot roast than a streak).

For the longest time I couldn't figure out how to cook a New York steak properly. I like my steaks medium but when I cooked them on a BBQ grill, they were seldom sealed properly, often dry, and were either overcooked, undercooked, or unevenly cooked.

Then one day I decided to pan fry a New York steak and it cooked perfectly and since then I have never incorrectly cooked a New York steak.

For the longest time I thought that was odd since everybody talks about cooking steaks on a BBQ but then I noticed that on many food shows, they often pan fry their steaks even though they have a grill on the cooktop.
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