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anotherlimey Dec 13th 2017 12:35 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12398178)
Did that happen when filming for the walking dead?

Unfortunately not, I would have been covered at 100% probably.

ottotheboar Dec 13th 2017 1:00 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 
A friend of mine in Florida found her husband collapsed on the floor in the morning, he was taken to the local hospital and diagnosed with a stroke and helicoptered to the stroke center in Orlando and recovered.
They then ended up with a $70,000 bill as there was a dispute over what was in and out of network.
It was resolved in the end with a massive reduction in costs.

DandNHill Dec 13th 2017 1:14 pm

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Funny isn’t it!

I fell off a curb I didn’t see in the summer.

That evening I decided to go to the hospital as my wrist and ankle were really sore and I had hit my head.

They did an X-ray or my wrist and ankle didn’t seem concerned about my head and sent me on my way.

Being in Canada I wasn’t charged anything. I received a sensible amount of care without any OTT expenses.

I love living in Canada! 🇨🇦

WEBlue Dec 13th 2017 4:35 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by petitefrancaise (Post 12398688)
oh yeah, I saw this the other day, which looks like it could be a very useful tool for finding out medical costs.
https://amino.com/

Interesting site!

I have a friend whose husband needs his gall bladder removed (laproscopic). In our area it will cost half what it would cost if done in a city 12 miles away.... :blink:

lansbury Dec 13th 2017 5:44 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by petitefrancaise (Post 12398688)
oh yeah, I saw this the other day, which looks like it could be a very useful tool for finding out medical costs.
https://amino.com/


Originally Posted by WEBlue (Post 12399165)
Interesting site!

I have a friend whose husband needs his gall bladder removed (laproscopic). In our area it will cost half what it would cost if done in a city 12 miles away.... :blink:

I not sure how accurate that site is. For the hospital where I had my MRI done the site gives a cost of between $350 - $650. The actual cost was $1740, and the hospital is owned by my insurers so I don't see them inflating the cost to themselves.

petitefrancaise Dec 13th 2017 11:57 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12399199)
I not sure how accurate that site is. For the hospital where I had my MRI done the site gives a cost of between $350 - $650. The actual cost was $1740, and the hospital is owned by my insurers so I don't see them inflating the cost to themselves.

My insurance which is administered by Aetna but the company pays it all - the website has a section where you can search for the costs for the procedures you need to get done. I had a look for the cost of the shoulder MRI which I had had already done - costs ranged from $500 to $3500 within a 10 mile radius of my home. The cheapest was a local radiology "chain" and the most expensive was the local hospital.

There's an article about insurance costs - which I will find and post. It is very interesting reading and may explain why your own insurance owned place may not be the cheapest.

Can't find the post that talked about the requirement for health insurance companies to pay out 80% of the premiums in claims but I started here and went down a rabbit hole.. Basically, your insurance owned hospital will bill the insurers ( your insurance company) and there is not a lot of incentive to keep the bill low because of this 80% requirement.
https://wealthyaccountant.com/2017/1...thcare-crisis/

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 14th 2017 8:51 am

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 
We are not too bad in BC for emergency/urgent healthcare at the ER, but the system is failing when it comes to finding a GP for regular routine medical care, and mental health isn't treated on par with physical health making it difficult to obtain services.

Upside to BC health system if I have a heart attack, stroke, or fall, little out of pocket costs.

Downside is if you need a GP you likely can't find one quickly and may even take years.



Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 12399055)
Funny isn’t it!

I fell off a curb I didn’t see in the summer.

That evening I decided to go to the hospital as my wrist and ankle were really sore and I had hit my head.

They did an X-ray or my wrist and ankle didn’t seem concerned about my head and sent me on my way.

Being in Canada I wasn’t charged anything. I received a sensible amount of care without any OTT expenses.

I love living in Canada! 🇨🇦


Lion in Winter Dec 14th 2017 12:44 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 12399055)
Funny isn’t it!

I fell off a curb I didn’t see in the summer.

That evening I decided to go to the hospital as my wrist and ankle were really sore and I had hit my head.

They did an X-ray or my wrist and ankle didn’t seem concerned about my head and sent me on my way.

Being in Canada I wasn’t charged anything. I received a sensible amount of care without any OTT expenses.

I love living in Canada! 🇨🇦


There is NO good reason why this wealthy country I live in could not provide health service in the same way.

There are, however, several bad reasons - the profit-driven health care "industry" comprising insurers, pharma companies, hospitals, doctors, and more.

carcajou Dec 16th 2017 7:30 am

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Why should the costs go down? The senior execs and chief surgeons have Cessna payments to make.

Hiro11 Dec 17th 2017 1:11 am

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12399538)
We are not too bad in BC for emergency/urgent healthcare at the ER, but the system is failing when it comes to finding a GP for regular routine medical care, and mental health isn't treated on par with physical health making it difficult to obtain services.

Upside to BC health system if I have a heart attack, stroke, or fall, little out of pocket costs.

Downside is if you need a GP you likely can't find one quickly and may even take years.

Price controls create shortages, as has been true since the dawn of time.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 17th 2017 5:55 am

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https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4100251

Bob Dec 19th 2017 9:40 pm

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We know someone who's kid had to go into rehab, as he had a bit of a drinking problem. Insurance didn't cover it and it was $275 a day. He's been in rehab for 6 weeks now.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 19th 2017 9:59 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 12402431)
We know someone who's kid had to go into rehab, as he had a bit of a drinking problem. Insurance didn't cover it and it was $275 a day. He's been in rehab for 6 weeks now.

Seems to on par with the going rate for self paying patients in BC, the few places I found that list prices were in the 225-275 range.

Some patients may qualify for gov't medical coverage for drug/alcohol treatment but its not universally covered.

Rete Dec 19th 2017 10:15 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 12402431)
We know someone who's kid had to go into rehab, as he had a bit of a drinking problem. Insurance didn't cover it and it was $275 a day. He's been in rehab for 6 weeks now.

It is the same down here in Mississippi. Drug and alcohol rehab is not covered by healthcare. Throw your kid out and let the state pay for it.

morpeth Dec 19th 2017 11:03 pm

Re: An example of unexpected medical bills
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12398161)
Thank goodness you did not have a high deductible plan. Friend of ours just had a baby. They called before the baby and were told it was going to be around $1000. After the baby they got a bill for just over $1000. 2 months later they got a bill for over $6000, the insurers reply, was that they had made a mistake with the first bill.

Costs really out of control in USA. A visitor we had needed to visit the emergency room, unspecified illness, 2 hours in waiting room then 15 minutes with doctor who basically said this isn't an emergency , take care of it in your own country. Bill came in at $1,800. However kind of hilarious- clerk asked if he was a veteran, he said yes, and somehow ended up they said bill should be sent to the military- not recognizing it was the military of another country. In any case how could hospital in good conscience send a bill for $1,800 for 15 minutes ?


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