They estimate anywhere from 50-100k shortage of doctors in the US which is kinda astonishing.

I see recruiters offering stacks of jobs with visas and 50K Sign ons with GC sponsorship thrown in and yet they cant get any applicants.

Just very odd and perhaps the slow clunky process of migration here deters people from coming maybe.

It's not just a US issue, Canada has a doctor shortage as well, some areas you can't even find a GP accepting patients and have to use walk in clinics or ER's to access a doctor.

And the UK for that matter

no sh*t sherlock. Let me see, minimum $250K worth of debt/tuition to get the magic Dr before your name. Then you have to play footsie with insurance companies for the rest of your life.....

The problem is probablly that you have to retrain - even people with many years experience, IIRC, have to intern for at least 18 months etc etc.

The USA is very bad at recognising non-USA qualifications.

Is there really a doctor shortage, now or projecting in the future? Presumably there are wildly different answers from various professional bodies (for instance) with different axes to grind.

Here's an article from the NYT that looks at it from several perspectives. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/u...look.html?_r=0

One thing the NYT article mentions is ancillary professions, such as nurses, physician assistants, physical therapists, technicians & counsellors of various sorts etc. More rational and efficient distribution of doctors vs. other practitioners may mean that there isn't a shortage at all.

There definitely is a shortage when you offer a 300K salary, 50k sign on with GC sponsorship thrown in and no applicants then definitely you have a shortage! The level of shortage can be debated not the fact of having shortage in first place!

Kind of agree with the issue of recognizing non-US training same with UK recognizing non-UK stuff

We do not have a Doctor in my County so that suggests a shortage.

There have been a number of Doctors who have moved over who have posted on here.

For whatever reason I thought it was set up so it was very difficult for a Doctor to move.

Year 1 potential $300,000—guaranteed base salary plus annual bonus and sign-on
· Practice focuses on Adults and Geriatric patient population—open to Family Medicine trained, or Internal Medicine trained
· Employed, full scope Family/Internal Medicine
· 16 patients per day—outpatient with minimal phone call
Full benefits—health, dental, life, vision for you and your dependents
· Paid malpractice and $3,000 CME stipend

Typical advert and no applicants despite offering visas and GC? Cant see how it is difficult to move when they appear to want to facilitate it

Where in that advert did it say anything about Visa sponsorship?

I wonder where in the US that advertised job was located? In large parts of the US, it's very hard to get professionals to fill vacancies - not just doctors, but university professors, librarians, assistant district attorneys. (Just to name a few.) Rural areas, small towns, even cities, if they are perceived as being insufficiently cosmopolitan or whatever.

No that does not mean there is a shortage. Just that no-one wants that job.

In the advert subject it said visa sponsorship H1/J1, it was in Oregon so I presume it is classed as some place in need

Here was another:-

Will Sponsor VISA| Northern California| Outpatient $270,000 Base|



100% Outpatient Primary careCare + Precept UC Davis Med Students
Northern California Mid-Metro
Outdoor Paradise with 300 Days of Sunshine per Year

I doubt this offer could be that bad or maybe you need more than 270k to live there I presume

95-98% of the physician roles do not recognize medical training outside the USA.

The only way to become recognized is to retrain, in a USA medical residency program, applications for which are very competitive. When I was looking, there were only FIVE training (residency) places for potential OB/GYNs in the greater San Diego area. ie vacancies for five people wishing to work in that field.

See the TV show Northern Exposure, made up but true. Getting Doctors to very rural and poor areas is difficult at best.