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Old Jul 6th 2014, 10:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Eating healthy costs a lot more money then eating processed junk, and I can't really blame low income people for buying processed stuff to fill their bellies to stretch their money out to cover an entire month.

I've been trying to eat healthy non-processed foods, so been buying mostly fruits, vegetables and lean meats, but 50 dollars only buys about 2 days of this stuff, and it really is a a financial hardship to eat this way, our total monthly food budget is only 200.

Its just sad that natural and healthy foods cost so much, and poor people just can't usually afford them.
Fresh fruit and veg are not even available in many poor areas.
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Old Jul 7th 2014, 12:50 am
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Default Re: Do americans live excessively beyond their means ?

Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Eating healthy costs a lot more money then eating processed junk, and I can't really blame low income people for buying processed stuff to fill their bellies to stretch their money out to cover an entire month.

I've been trying to eat healthy non-processed foods, so been buying mostly fruits, vegetables and lean meats, but 50 dollars only buys about 2 days of this stuff, and it really is a a financial hardship to eat this way, our total monthly food budget is only 200.

Its just sad that natural and healthy foods cost so much, and poor people just can't usually afford them.
I didn't realize it was so hard in Canada.
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Old Jul 7th 2014, 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Fresh fruit and veg are not even available in many poor areas.
True true. My sister lives in a low income area in California and the closest grocery store is 12 miles away, only thing within a short distance are small stores of which none sell produce, everything is from a box, can.

My sister has a car so the drive isn't an issue, but without a car many can't access the grocery store. They used to have a grocery store, but it was closed some years back.

Originally Posted by AmerLisa
I didn't realize it was so hard in Canada.
It is if you don't have a highish budget for food. Almost all produce Sept to June is imported from the US or Mexico, and in summer while we do have local stuff, its premium priced since they have a short season, so have to maximize prices.

If you live in a metropolitan area like Vancouver, you can get lower prices at the independent markets in the Asian communities, but in other places prices tend to be high due to lack of competition.

We have 3 stores in my town, 2 of the 3 are owned by the same company and their prices are nearly the same on every item, the 3rd store is independently owned, but poor selection, and overall not any cheaper.

This is what 30 dollars got me today, it will last 2 people 2 days roughly.

Boneless pork 3.70 (3 chops)

Chicken breast cuts 3.58 (made 4 tacos for dinner)

4 bananas 1kg @ 1.74 per kg

1kg California grown nectarines 5.93 (4 pieces of fruit)

Black plums California grown 1kg @ 5.49 per kg (5 small plums)

Red plums California grown 1kg @ 5.49kg

2 ears of corn, corn is always reasonably priced 1.78 for 2

500g of cheese 6.99

1 tomato 0.48

It may not seem like a lot, but for us its pretty significant, realistically we can only spend 60 per week for food, and right now we are spending about 30 every 2 days.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
4 bananas 1kg @ 1.74 per kg
I'm always grateful for the low(ish) price of bananas. I strongly suspect there's a downside to it--such as exploited workers in third-world nations

But even in the winter when I have trouble justifying buying other fruit at fairly high tariffs, bananas are always affordable. The husband & I each have one every day. I brought up my kids on bananas!
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I'm always grateful for the low(ish) price of bananas. I strongly suspect there's a downside to it--such as exploited workers in third-world nations

But even in the winter when I have trouble justifying buying other fruit at fairly high tariffs, bananas are always affordable. The husband & I each have one every day. I brought up my kids on bananas!
Yep, a banana a day for us too! The one fruit I couldn't be without.
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Didnt i hear that people on a very tight budget find the dollar stores to be the best stretch?
I have one within walking distance that has a limited range of fruit and veg. Some of it not so fresh looking.
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Originally Posted by Uncle_Bob
Didnt i hear that people on a very tight budget find the dollar stores to be the best stretch?
I have one within walking distance that has a limited range of fruit and veg. Some of it not so fresh looking.
Yes they do, and I did a lot of shopping at dollar stores when I lived in California.

Unfortunately the dollar stores here are not a good deal, just junk food, no real food sold at them.
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
I'm always grateful for the low(ish) price of bananas. I strongly suspect there's a downside to it--such as exploited workers in third-world nations

But even in the winter when I have trouble justifying buying other fruit at fairly high tariffs, bananas are always affordable. The husband & I each have one every day. I brought up my kids on bananas!
I eat banana's more then anything, I am buying them pretty much daily since they don't last long before becoming too ripe, and I can easily eat 3-4 per day. They are my go to snack.

Apples in winter are the other affordable fruit, and strawberries from California.

Anything else is either not available in winter, or very expensive.
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Old Jul 8th 2014, 3:31 am
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Banana's are 39c a pound at Wegmans....not a bad deal, except only one kid will eat them and I'm allergic to the things.
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Banana's are 39c a pound at Wegmans....not a bad deal, except only one kid will eat them and I'm allergic to the things.
Dang that is cheap. Doing the conversion, appears to be about 79 cents per pound for the normal ones. Organic is about 1.09 per pound.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Yes they do, and I did a lot of shopping at dollar stores when I lived in California.

Unfortunately the dollar stores here are not a good deal, just junk food, no real food sold at them.
Yes, the food sold at our dollar stores here in the northeast is pretty dire too. Never any fresh fruit or veg, any very limited if any frozen or chiller foods available in the dollar stores I've seen. Mostly over-processed over-packaged imitation "foodstuffs" that couldn't nourish a real human being.

Sometimes one of our dollar stores has half-price sale on various tinned veg--that's the only real food I'll ever buy there.
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