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sambapink Mar 24th 2009 1:18 pm

Cost of running a pool..
 
We're thinking about moving to another Rental.. I like one that has a pool and spa ;) The maintenance of the pool is included in the rent, but I'd like to know how expensive they are to heat and run. What costs are involved?

Bill_S Mar 24th 2009 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416151)
We're thinking about moving to another Rental.. I like one that has a pool and spa ;) The maintenance of the pool is included in the rent, but I'd like to know how expensive they are to heat and run. What costs are involved?

Some estimates from the Department of Energy: link.

sambapink Mar 24th 2009 1:27 pm

Re: Cost of running a pool..
 
Thanks Bill, that was useful.. T'is expensive :(

cindyabs Mar 24th 2009 1:30 pm

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think there's extra insurance costs involved.

sambapink Mar 24th 2009 1:33 pm

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Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 7416170)
think there's extra insurance costs involved.

Hey lovely lady ;)

Maybe a paddling pool will suffice then.. :o

cindyabs Mar 24th 2009 1:34 pm

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416173)
Hey lovely lady ;)

Maybe a paddling pool will suffice then.. :o

Hiyas chiclet, :)

As for the insurance thing- I'm sure someone (ie Ray) can advise. :D

sambapink Mar 24th 2009 1:40 pm

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Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 7416175)
Hiyas chiclet, :)

As for the insurance thing- I'm sure someone (ie Ray) can advise. :D

Yeah, i'll wait to see if he can advise - I'm sure his cleaning bill is quite high too, considering he swims in his pool naked :D

mellybrown Mar 24th 2009 2:00 pm

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416186)
Yeah, i'll wait to see if he can advise - I'm sure his cleaning bill is quite high too, considering he swims in his pool naked :D

:blink:

Bill_S Mar 24th 2009 2:08 pm

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416168)
Thanks Bill, that was useful.. T'is expensive :(

Growing up in Canada, I had a few friends with heated backyard pools. It probably wasn't a huge expense in 1970, but I'm sure it's ruinous to try to heat a pool in a cold climate today.

sambapink Mar 24th 2009 2:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Bill_S (Post 7416264)
Growing up in Canada, I had a few friends with heated backyard pools. It probably wasn't a huge expense in 1970, but I'm sure it's ruinous to try to heat a pool in a cold climate today.

Luckily we don't get a whole lot of cold weather here in California - and if we're not using it in the 'winter' then I guess you don't have to heat it then.

anotherlimey Mar 24th 2009 2:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Bill_S (Post 7416159)
Some estimates from the Department of Energy: link.

WTF - who heats their pool in Miami??!!! :blink:

To the OP - it depends where you are located. If you want to heat the pool during the autumn in NYC it's going to cost quite a bit. But down here in S. Florida no one, at least no one I know, heats their pool; the most anyone does down here is pay a cleaner ($50-$200 per month) and run the filter pump for a few hours a day, but IIRC the air con in your house costs way more than the pool pump.

Englishtart Mar 24th 2009 2:53 pm

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416324)
Luckily we don't get a whole lot of cold weather here in California - and if we're not using it in the 'winter' then I guess you don't have to heat it then.

That's true, we had a pool in our house in San Antonio, it had a heater, but we never used it, if the maintenance is included in the rental price, it shouldn't cost you any extra, We used ours (without heat) from April through to the end of September, sometimes longer. I loved it :thumbsup:
Keep in mind, if there are a lot of trees, foliage etc around the pool, it can be a bit of a pain in the butt cleaning it out. We had a vacuum and a filter system, but you will still need to 'skim' the pool if you have trees that lose their leaves etc.

sambapink Mar 25th 2009 2:13 am

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Thanks ET.. Yes there are tree's around the pool - and it would be me who would have to clean it :thumbdown:

Thanks for replies, very helpful :)

Poppy girl Mar 25th 2009 2:16 am

Re: Cost of running a pool..
 

Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416151)
We're thinking about moving to another Rental.. I like one that has a pool and spa ;) The maintenance of the pool is included in the rent, but I'd like to know how expensive they are to heat and run. What costs are involved?

Our hot tub last summer was an extra $300 a month if thats a guide line!

sambapink Mar 25th 2009 2:21 am

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Originally Posted by Poppy girl (Post 7417958)
Our hot tub last summer was an extra $300 a month if thats a guide line!

:ohmy: Wow, thats a chunk of cash! Argghhh.. its not fun being poor in California :frown:

soap addict Mar 25th 2009 3:12 am

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7417972)
:ohmy: Wow, thats a chunk of cash! Argghhh.. its not fun being poor in California :frown:

Hi Sambapink

We have a pool and never turn the heater on - no need in the summer. The water bill however does go up in the summer as you have to keep topping it up.

Soap Addict

fatbrit Mar 25th 2009 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416151)
We're thinking about moving to another Rental..

I'd have thought it's a good time to buy in Ca right now.

sambapink Mar 25th 2009 3:25 am

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Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 7418128)
I'd have thought it's a good time to buy in Ca right now.

Yeah it really is.. but we won't consider it until we have greencards - and even then we're still not sure if this will be long term for us.

crg Mar 25th 2009 4:31 am

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My gas and electric bill was higher in the summer than the winter. Heating 17,000 gallons to 88 degrees a few times a month and running an electric water pump most of the day costs a chunk of change.

Add replacement parts, chemicals, opening and closing, winterizing, and it gets time consuming and expensive.

If it's not closed properly and the lines freeze/crack, you're looking at thousands of dollars to dig around it and replace the lines.

When not in use, spiders like to nest in it and their webs clog the heater and it won't stay lit. That's a service call unless you like tinkering with a natural gas heater right next to your home.

When it was closed, I had to put a smaller fence around it to keep the dog from swimming around on top of the cover.

If you're not around to take care of it while on vacation you either have to pay someone, or it might turn into a frog pond.

It might be cheaper to stay at a hotel when you want to swim or get a membership somewhere.

SpoogleDrummer Mar 25th 2009 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by crg14624 (Post 7418352)
My gas and electric bill was higher in the summer than the winter. Heating 17,000 gallons to 88 degrees a few times a month and running an electric water pump most of the day costs a chunk of change.

88 degrees? You cooking lobsters in it or something?

Jerseygirl Mar 25th 2009 8:12 am

Re: Cost of running a pool..
 

Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416151)
We're thinking about moving to another Rental.. I like one that has a pool and spa ;) The maintenance of the pool is included in the rent, but I'd like to know how expensive they are to heat and run. What costs are involved?

According to my husband it's bloody expensive and he does all the mainenance...as well as opening the pool up in the spring and closing it down in the fall. We have one of those auto pool cleaners so that helps. Our monthly gas for heating the pool is about $500/600 per month June/July/August (that was a few years ago...I haven't looked at the bills since. :lol:)...I like it at 90+ degrees...plus we have a large deep pool.

sambapink Mar 25th 2009 8:18 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 7419088)
According to my husband it's bloody expensive and he does all the mainenance...as well as opening the pool up in the spring and closing it down in the fall. We have one of those auto pool cleaners so that helps. Our monthly gas for heating the pool is about $500/600 per month June/July/August (that was a few years ago...I haven't looked at the bills since. :lol:)...I like it at 90 degrees...plus we have a large deep pool.

:eek: 90 degrees?!! As I say the maintenance is included - but even just having to heat it is going to be alot of money!

crg Mar 25th 2009 8:22 am

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Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 7419068)
88 degrees? You cooking lobsters in it or something?

It would get up to something like 108 or 112F if I cranked it. I came home to see a foot and a half of fog in the backyard. I wasn't looking forward to seeing the bill that month. It also wreaks havoc with their estimated billing.

lisa67 Mar 25th 2009 8:29 am

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we have an unheated pool here in TX. we pay $90 per month for a guy to come and clean the filters etc. (more if i want him doing it in a thong ;):D )
we're on a well so the water doesn't cost us anything and we haven't noticed much difference in the electricity bill.

Redwing Mar 25th 2009 9:47 am

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:)We are in SE Tenn and the pool is 20 x 40 x 10' at the deep end, with a retractable cover. I normally open it in April, turn the heater on to get the temp up to 73. Last time it cost about $400. I open and close it each day it is in use, but unless we have a cold spell, I do not have to heat it again before we close it in the fall. I have to keep the cover on, and let the sun keep heating it until the temp is about 85, for Mrs R. to be able to go in.

ironporer Mar 25th 2009 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7417972)
:ohmy: Wow, thats a chunk of cash! Argghhh.. its not fun being poor in California :frown:

I doubt you would ever need to run the heat much, living in CA.

Englishtart Mar 25th 2009 10:08 am

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7419116)
:eek: 90 degrees?!! As I say the maintenance is included - but even just having to heat it is going to be alot of money!

Hubby's folks live in CA, their last house had a pool w/heater, they never used the heater, no need too. When we had ours in TX, I preferred it cooler, it was always nice to 'cool down' in the pool :thumbsup:

ironporer Mar 25th 2009 10:15 am

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Originally Posted by Englishtart (Post 7419536)
Hubby's folks live in CA, their last house had a pool w/heater, they never used the heater, no need too. When we had ours in TX, I preferred it cooler, it was always nice to 'cool down' in the pool :thumbsup:

A few years ago when we had one the water was great from Apr-Oct (ok a bit nip the first and last of the season but OK) and if anything was piss hot in the summer...could'a used a chiller in July/Aug!

Socal Local Mar 25th 2009 10:21 am

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Originally Posted by ironporer (Post 7419515)
I doubt you would ever need to run the heat much, living in CA.

Depends where you are in CA and how long you want to use it - I'd be surprised if you could get away with no heating. We have a solar heated pool and have been told we should be able to use it end March through to November. I think we need a few more hot days yet though as today the temp is showing as 67 degrees which is just a bit too refreshing for me :)

Ray Mar 25th 2009 10:38 am

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Heater are supposed to cut out at 104F

Michael Mar 25th 2009 3:23 pm

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Most of the public or HOA pools that I have used have been set to 80° but typically vary from 78°-82°. At 80° I find it OK but below that it seems too cold and above that up to 82° I find very comfortable.

I don't think I would care for a pool set at 88° or above.

mayhemuk Mar 25th 2009 4:21 pm

Re: Cost of running a pool..
 
If you do go for it make sure it has a convenient cover arrangement.
If the cover is easy to take on and off you can leave the cover in place and it'll help retain heat and cut down evaporation.
I was suprised from that chart that it was more to heat the pool in LA than San Francisco. Is the gas more expensive down there?
Our pool has the heater disconnected and when we moved in last August it was 78 degrees with no cover. So a cover will take it up a degree or two more.
Personally I prefer it less than 80 so it's refreshing rather than a bath!

If you're going to be paying your own water bill make sure the pool is leak free or get some statment in your rental regarding leakage. I work repairing them and even small ones can add up to alot.

Good luck.

Dan725 Mar 26th 2009 6:36 am

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Originally Posted by ironporer (Post 7419515)
I doubt you would ever need to run the heat much, living in CA.

This is actually one of the biggest myths going, which people don't realise till they get to said hot place and want to use the pool year round.

Since I got my pool heat pump last year (Thanks for the recommendation Ray!) I've realised what a mare it is to not have it heated. Especially so when you've got children who want to swim all the time.

Heat pumps very economical to run too especially if you have a cover. Just set your desired temp and forget about it.

Dan725 Mar 26th 2009 6:42 am

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Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 7416336)
WTF - who heats their pool in Miami??!!! :blink:

WTF everyone who fancies going swimming Nov through Feb, thats who...as per my post above ;)

Florida softies, in other words...:D

anotherlimey Mar 26th 2009 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by Dan725 (Post 7422731)
WTF everyone who fancies going swimming Nov through Feb, thats who...as per my post above ;)

Florida softies, in other words...:D

You pansy! :p It never gets that cold.

london52 Mar 26th 2009 6:51 am

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Originally Posted by sambapink (Post 7416186)
Yeah, i'll wait to see if he can advise - I'm sure his cleaning bill is quite high too, considering he swims in his pool naked :D


Tell him to stop it....
I used to service the electrical side of pools and the amount of pubic hair I had to pull out of the filters was not funny...:frown:

Michael Mar 26th 2009 7:01 am

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Originally Posted by ironporer (Post 7419515)
I doubt you would ever need to run the heat much, living in CA.

Unless you are living in the hot inland areas of California, overnight temperatures usually drop significantly cooling the water. Evening lows during the summer are usually in the 50s or low 60s depending on where you live in the state.

I suspect that California is probably one of the more expensive states to keep a pool heated during the summer.

cavalierhome Mar 26th 2009 7:24 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 7419088)
According to my husband it's bloody expensive and he does all the mainenance...as well as opening the pool up in the spring and closing it down in the fall. We have one of those auto pool cleaners so that helps. Our monthly gas for heating the pool is about $500/600 per month June/July/August (that was a few years ago...I haven't looked at the bills since. :lol:)...I like it at 90+ degrees...plus we have a large deep pool.



SOLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had big gas bills.... Installed solar pool eating on my roof... Next gas bill...$16.50. After a few times of coming to fill the tanks and finding them still full they told me they wanted their tanks back. :rofl:

My pool is 35,000 gallons and my solar heats it to basically any temperature I want(reasonable it won’t boil) as long as there is sun.

Ray Mar 26th 2009 7:25 am

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Originally Posted by cavalierhome (Post 7422885)
My pool is 35,000 gallons and my solar heats it to basically any temperature .

That's a big pool

Dan725 Mar 26th 2009 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 7422894)
That's a big pool

More like an ocean in your back yard.....:)


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