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swtcorrado Dec 16th 2009 8:32 am

converting dollars to pounds
 
Whats the best way to get the most bang for your buck?

My family and I are moving back to the UK in February of next year. I'm turning all my assets into cash and closing all bank accounts before I leave.

My questions are:

Is it better to convert from $ to pounds in the US or in the UK?

Where's the best place that will exchange at the best rate with the lowest fees?

I'll be dealing with cash in hand with around $30-40k

Thanks..

dunroving Dec 16th 2009 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8178184)
Whats the best way to get the most bang for your buck?

My family and I are moving back to the UK in February of next year. I'm turning all my assets into cash and closing all bank accounts before I leave.

My questions are:

Is it better to convert from $ to pounds in the US or in the UK?

Where's the best place that will exchange at the best rate with the lowest fees?

I'll be dealing with cash in hand with around $30-40k

Thanks..

Search for posts containing xe.com

swtcorrado Dec 16th 2009 9:46 am

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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 8178254)
Search for posts containing xe.com

thanks but xe.com is a currancy trading site... like I said in my orginal post, I'll have the cash in hand.

Aviator Dec 16th 2009 10:09 am

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The best rate is through an FX broker, such as Custom House and using bank transfers. You don't get the best rate with cash, in fact it is usually one of the worst. Not to mention that is a lot of cash to carry around, sooner you than me. You will also be required to decalre this to customs when entering the UK, so expect a few questions. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriv...aring-cash.htm You may also want to check with US customs as there may be a threshold where you have to declare cash being taken out of the country, it is $10,000 coming in maybe the same going out.

Does not matter where you are, the rate is the rate. With banks it can vary a bit more though from country to country. No way to tell where you're going to get the best, rate, it changes by the second.

brits1 Dec 16th 2009 10:28 am

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8178184)
Whats the best way to get the most bang for your buck?

My family and I are moving back to the UK in February of next year. I'm turning all my assets into cash and closing all bank accounts before I leave.

My questions are:

Is it better to convert from $ to pounds in the US or in the UK?

Where's the best place that will exchange at the best rate with the lowest fees?

I'll be dealing with cash in hand with around $30-40k

Thanks..

Try ozforex or Hifix with a large amount you can get more than a smaller amount...we had a really good rate from ozforex....but as per usual a month later rates went through the roof...lol...good luck...

dunroving Dec 16th 2009 9:01 pm

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8178309)
thanks but xe.com is a currancy trading site... like I said in my orginal post, I'll have the cash in hand.

I did read your original post, and saw what you said (but thanks for the bold, anyway :rolleyes:) but I don't see what difference it makes.

Do you mean you are literally going to carry that kind of cash with you when you travel? That sounds risky (other words come to mind).

I didn't think having cash in your hand (literally) meant anything different these days, especially re: currency exchange - it's not like you are haggling over the price of a sweater at some open market, surely? It's the amount that usually makes a difference, not whether it's physically in your sweaty palm? Maybe I'm missing something fundamental.

Aviator Dec 17th 2009 4:39 am

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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 8179435)
It's the amount that usually makes a difference, not whether it's physically in your sweaty palm? Maybe I'm missing something fundamental.

It does, if you try and exchange cash you get one of, if not the lowest Fx rate. The amount does also make a difference, timing can make an even bigger difference.

swtcorrado Dec 17th 2009 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 8179435)
I did read your original post, and saw what you said (but thanks for the bold, anyway :rolleyes:) but I don't see what difference it makes.

Do you mean you are literally going to carry that kind of cash with you when you travel? That sounds risky (other words come to mind).

I didn't think having cash in your hand (literally) meant anything different these days, especially re: currency exchange - it's not like you are haggling over the price of a sweater at some open market, surely? It's the amount that usually makes a difference, not whether it's physically in your sweaty palm? Maybe I'm missing something fundamental.

I didn't put anything in bold??

Without going into too much detail I have had to close my bank accounts. I literally have all my assets liquid so to speak.

swtcorrado Dec 17th 2009 7:45 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8178353)
The best rate is through an FX broker, such as Custom House and using bank transfers. You don't get the best rate with cash, in fact it is usually one of the worst. Not to mention that is a lot of cash to carry around, sooner you than me. You will also be required to decalre this to customs when entering the UK, so expect a few questions. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriv...aring-cash.htm You may also want to check with US customs as there may be a threshold where you have to declare cash being taken out of the country, it is $10,000 coming in maybe the same going out.

Does not matter where you are, the rate is the rate. With banks it can vary a bit more though from country to country. No way to tell where you're going to get the best, rate, it changes by the second.

It is $10,000... There are 5 of us so it would be easy enough to divide it up...

Aviator Dec 17th 2009 7:58 am

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8181063)
It is $10,000... There are 5 of us so it would be easy enough to divide it up...

No doubt they've seen that one before. Be a bugger if it was confiscated eh!

Ciaran1 Dec 20th 2009 6:28 am

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Has anyone used TorFx (U.K. based) or Payline FX (Canada Based) for foreign exchange?

https://www.torfx.com/index.htm
http://www.paylinefinancial.com/

The rates they offer would appear to be much better than www.xe.com

Recently I exchanged $10,000 US dollars into Pounds Sterling with www.xe.com and they offered a rate that was over 300 pips higher than the live rate.

WWW.XE.COM
The live rate (mid-market rate) was £1 GBP = $1.6147 USD
Rate offered by www.xe.com £1 GBP = $1.6467 USD
I was able to therefore obtain £6,072.75 GBP
There were absolutely no fees involved

WWW.TORFX.COM
The live rate (mid-market rate) was £1 GBP = $1.6147 USD
Rate claimed they could offer was £1 GBP = $1.6260 USD
Fee of $20 USD involved to wire money from the U.S. to the U.K.
I was able to therefore obtain £6,137.76 for $10,000 USD
Savings of £65.01 GBP vs www.xe.com

WWW.PAYLINEFINANCIAL.COM
The live rate (mid-market rate) was £1 GBP = $1.6147 USD
Rate claimed they could offer was £1 GBP = $1.6309 USD
I would therefore have been able to obtain £6,131.58 for $10,000 USD
Savings of £58.83 GBP vs www.xe.com
No fees involved

Any feedback on this would be appreciated

Englishmum Dec 20th 2009 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8181063)
It is $10,000... There are 5 of us so it would be easy enough to divide it up...


However....when you get to the UK are you planning to buy something 'big' with your cash eg. a car, house deposit, or spend it over a long period of time in dribs and drabs? Any large financial transactions in cash have to be reported - do you want to take the risk of potentially being deemed an international money launderer? :ohmy::lol:

johnh009 Dec 22nd 2009 1:55 am

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8178184)
Whats the best way to get the most bang for your buck?

My family and I are moving back to the UK in February of next year. I'm turning all my assets into cash and closing all bank accounts before I leave.

My questions are:

Is it better to convert from $ to pounds in the US or in the UK?

Where's the best place that will exchange at the best rate with the lowest fees?

I'll be dealing with cash in hand with around $30-40k

Thanks..

I am in Canada and doing the same and using these people:

http://www.currencyonline.com/

They are part of the HiFX Group (they have a banner on this site) and operate through the Bank of New Zealand. The rates they offer are better than the banks.

I have found them to be efficient and helpful and the whole transfer process usually only takes 2 to 3 business days.

I believe when entering the UK you have to declare anything more than 9,000 Euros (or equivalent) in cash (including bank drafts). So they may ask for evidence of where any amounts in excess of this came from.

penguinsix Dec 25th 2009 10:57 pm

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8181063)
It is $10,000... There are 5 of us so it would be easy enough to divide it up...

In the US that would be called 'structuring'--breaking up a transaction to avoid a financial reporting law. It is illegal in the US and many other jurisdictions under money laundering statutes. I do not know about the current UK law though.

Sally Redux Dec 26th 2009 6:39 am

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8181063)
It is $10,000... There are 5 of us so it would be easy enough to divide it up...

It was $30-40,000 eight posts ago.

Aviator Dec 26th 2009 9:10 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 8198033)
It was $30-40,000 eight posts ago.

That's inflation for you!

SpoogleDrummer Dec 26th 2009 2:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 8198033)
It was $30-40,000 eight posts ago.

I believe he was talking about the maximum amount of money you can take out of the country being 10k not the amount of money he has.

alba1 Dec 26th 2009 9:44 pm

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Originally Posted by swtcorrado (Post 8181058)
I didn't put anything in bold??

Without going into too much detail I have had to close my bank accounts. I literally have all my assets liquid so to speak.

I don't think there is a restriction on amount able to be taken out. It just has to be reported. If there is nothing illegal why not just phone the customs and ask or look in the US government gov travel site. I think if I remember rightly the site addresses this. It would be easier to have a letter of credit,
travellers' checks and/or an account to transfer your money to. It is much better to declare funds.

Sally Redux Dec 27th 2009 5:37 am

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Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 8198612)
I believe he was talking about the maximum amount of money you can take out of the country being 10k not the amount of money he has.

Ah right. You just have to declare it, as thers have said. Sounds like he might be on the run though.

alba1 Dec 27th 2009 6:08 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 8199520)
Ah right. You just have to declare it, as thers have said. Sounds like he might be on the run though.

justposted...don't know what happened the forum fairy took it again....lost in cyberspace....LOL

To repeat, if on the run...not really our business. In today's world better safe than sorry.

Aviator Dec 27th 2009 7:02 am

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I know of a guy in Lagos who may be able to help!

swtcorrado Dec 31st 2009 6:41 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8199602)
I know of a guy in Lagos who may be able to help!


can I get his number?
Just kidding... And just for the record I'm not on the run, just an international man of mystery.

Thanx to everyone that actually had a suggestion and not just throwing in their two cents. Probably the best thing to do is deposit half the money into a family members account and use one of the online trading companies. I wanted to be able to buy a car asap when I get there. It's best to deal in cash when buying used and private party. Only fools and horses.

Hino Jan 2nd 2010 8:19 am

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There are no restrictions on moving cash from the US as long as the correct US customs form has been completed, have this form completed before you attempt to leave the country with the cash. You will of course also have to declare this cash once you arrive in UK. By changing the cash into US money orders in the US prior to traveling, you will avoid the risk of traveling with a large amount of cash at minimal cost. The money orders are treated as cash for custom purposes.

You will probably get the best exchange rate by paying the Dollars into your UK account, though if your intention is to evade tax by traveling with cash.....best of luck.


Originally Posted by penguinsix (Post 8197651)
In the US that would be called 'structuring'--breaking up a transaction to avoid a financial reporting law. It is illegal in the US and many other jurisdictions under money laundering statutes. I do not know about the current UK law though.


swtcorrado Jan 2nd 2010 10:29 am

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Originally Posted by Hino (Post 8213413)
There are no restrictions on moving cash from the US as long as the correct US customs form has been completed, have this form completed before you attempt to leave the country with the cash. You will of course also have to declare this cash once you arrive in UK. By changing the cash into US money orders in the US prior to traveling, you will avoid the risk of traveling with a large amount of cash at minimal cost. The money orders are treated as cash for custom purposes.

You will probably get the best exchange rate by paying the Dollars into your UK account, though if your intention is to evade tax by traveling with cash.....best of luck.

geez no. My tax's will be filed every year. I just feel that you should be able to move your money around with out every Tom, Dick and Harry knowing about it

JimDavid1972 Jan 4th 2010 3:35 am

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If you are thinking about buying a car, most of the time you can get a better deal if you pay there and then in cash... but then again, this wont be with everyone!

In regards to getting your cash changed up... there are a few ways.. if you want to come into the UK with your cash in hand... then you could go to a currency company and get it changed up... i know the currency i used quite often, currencies 4 you.. can do cash money, but im not sure what sums! you are best off giving them a call, the website is www.currencies4you.com . But otherwise, i think the easier option would be depositing the money into your current account, then transferring it to a currency company to get changed up. But maybe you should ring the company 1st to see if they can do that amount of cash!

Hope that helps you out

Jim

PhillyG Jan 4th 2010 8:55 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8181090)
No doubt they've seen that one before. Be a gger if it was confiscated eh!

I sent home $70,000.00 USD last year when the rate was better.

Cost me @$940.00 approx. for the exchange to sterling and transfer from US bank to bank in UK.

Dont know if that helps at all.

JimDavid1972 Jan 5th 2010 1:38 am

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You paid $940 to carry out the whole transfer?

Aviator Jan 5th 2010 2:55 am

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Originally Posted by PhillyG (Post 8218369)
I sent home $70,000.00 USD last year when the rate was better.

Cost me @$940.00 approx. for the exchange to sterling and transfer from US bank to bank in UK.

Dont know if that helps at all.

1.35% to do an exchange, that more than AMEX charge!

JimDavid1972 Jan 5th 2010 2:59 am

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I know, thats crazy!

PhillyG Jan 5th 2010 4:08 am

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Originally Posted by JimDavid1972 (Post 8220026)
You paid $940 to carry out the whole transfer?

Yes.

I had to do it there & then that day..........probably paid more than I should have.

JimDavid1972 Jan 6th 2010 1:59 am

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Yeah i guess that had to be done... for anyone else... make sure you do it in advance!

aes1 Jan 21st 2010 8:59 am

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Originally Posted by PhillyG (Post 8220343)
Yes.

I had to do it there & then that day..........probably paid more than I should have.

Just read this and wondering who you used that charged that much? Anyone know who is the cheapest for fees??

johnh009 Jan 21st 2010 9:42 am

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Originally Posted by aes1 (Post 8270669)
Just read this and wondering who you used that charged that much? Anyone know who is the cheapest for fees??

As mentioned, use these people, they are currently charging no fees whatsoever:

www.currencyonline.com

aes1 Jan 21st 2010 10:23 am

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Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8270858)
As mentioned, use these people, they are currently charging no fees whatsoever:

www.currencyonline.com

Thanks, I actually just opened an account with them, but haven't made any transactions yet.

aes1 Jan 22nd 2010 2:29 am

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Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8270858)
As mentioned, use these people, they are currently charging no fees whatsoever:

www.currencyonline.com

What is the difference between currencyonline and HiFx for making transfers??

johnh009 Jan 22nd 2010 3:38 am

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Originally Posted by aes1 (Post 8272718)
What is the difference between currencyonline and HiFx for making transfers??

Currencyonline is part of the HiFX group. I know that when you contact HiFX in Canada, they refer you to Currencyonline. Maybe they handle the North American side of the business. It is operated in conjunction with the Bank of New Zealand. I have used them numerous times, they are very helpful (with a freephone number to NZ) and efficient. Your money always appears in your desitination account the day after they recieve it. They are charging no transfer fees at the moment and their rates are competitive. You only have to pay the cost of wiring your money to them.

HiFX have a Vendor Forum on this site. "Windsor2" (Mark Bodega) is a UK HiFX director so you can maybe direct any questions or concerns you have to him if no one else can help.

aes1 Jan 22nd 2010 4:41 am

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Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8272928)
Currencyonline is part of the HiFX group. I know that when you contact HiFX in Canada, they refer you to Currencyonline. Maybe they handle the North American side of the business. It is operated in conjunction with the Bank of New Zealand. I have used them numerous times, they are very helpful (with a freephone number to NZ) and efficient. Your money always appears in your desitination account the day after they recieve it. They are charging no transfer fees at the moment and their rates are competitive. You only have to pay the cost of wiring your money to them.

HiFX have a Vendor Forum on this site. "Windsor2" (Mark Bodega) is a UK HiFX director so you can maybe direct any questions or concerns you have to him if no one else can help.

Thanks for the info, I think you are right, Currencyonline being the NA side of HiFX. Do you know how long they are not charging for transfer fees? Does it depend on the amount?

johnh009 Jan 22nd 2010 2:40 pm

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Originally Posted by aes1 (Post 8273092)
Thanks for the info, I think you are right, Currencyonline being the NA side of HiFX. Do you know how long they are not charging for transfer fees? Does it depend on the amount?

Sorry, I have no idea how long their offer lasts, I suppose it will be as long as the economic climate is in the Doldrums, which could be a long time. If you email them, they will send you a freephone number and can can discuss any concerns you may have. I found them quite helpful. I could send you my Canadian freephone mumber but it is different from the US. Try emailing them at:

[email protected]

aes1 Jan 22nd 2010 11:06 pm

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Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8274349)
Sorry, I have no idea how long their offer lasts, I suppose it will be as long as the economic climate is in the Doldrums, which could be a long time. If you email them, they will send you a freephone number and can can discuss any concerns you may have. I found them quite helpful. I could send you my Canadian freephone mumber but it is different from the US. Try emailing them at:

[email protected]

Thanks, will do.

aes1 Jan 24th 2010 8:50 am

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Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8274349)
Sorry, I have no idea how long their offer lasts, I suppose it will be as long as the economic climate is in the Doldrums, which could be a long time. If you email them, they will send you a freephone number and can can discuss any concerns you may have. I found them quite helpful. I could send you my Canadian freephone mumber but it is different from the US. Try emailing them at:

[email protected]

I had an email back from currencyonline. The offer is unlimited, any transfer over US$5000 is free, under that it costs $5.


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