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Old Feb 29th 2016, 3:59 pm
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Apart from the exchange rate , does anyone have views on what the consequences will be if the UK leaves Europe. Will I be able to keep my European passport? Will my kids be able to apply for a European passport? Will it affect working options in Europe? I haven't heard much on the news except how it may affect business.
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This might give an insight...

https://view.publitas.com/british-in...o-leave/page/1

I've also heard it suggested that the UK would essentially enter into bilateral agreements that cover all the aspects that the EU previously did. So no real change (except for global wide economic panic).
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I'm interested to hear why the US seems so keen for the UK to stay in the EU.

Do they think they'll have more proxy influence that way? Or are they just backing up Cameron?
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Default Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe

Originally Posted by mrken30
Apart from the exchange rate , does anyone have views on what the consequences will be if the UK leaves Europe. Will I be able to keep my European passport? Will my kids be able to apply for a European passport? Will it affect working options in Europe? I haven't heard much on the news except how it may affect business.
There's no such thing as a 'European passport'. If the UK leaves the EU then British citizens would also cease to be European citizens.

British citizens' ability to live and work in the rest of the EU/EEA will depend on the arrangements made during the two year negotiation period following the referendum until 'Brexit'. If the UK leaves the EU but remains within the EEA then the current arrangements will continue unaffected.
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I'm interested to hear why the US seems so keen for the UK to stay in the EU.

Do they think they'll have more proxy influence that way? Or are they just backing up Cameron?
The issue is about the stability of the EU, the world's 2nd or 3rd largest economy (some argue it is actually the world's largest), and a peaceful western democracy, all of which is very much in America's interests to maintain. After all, if it falls apart, guess who will have to clean up the mess?

The EU is a young and not entirely sorted form of government, and isn't quite yet a "nation", and as such, demonstrably suffers some frailties and chronic crises (for now), and a brexit could have a very negative, uncertain impact on the stability of the EU as a whole. In the worst-case scenario, everybody loses, including Britain.

Britain therefore needs to wait until the EU has achieved more " political integration" (read: becomes a "nation") before leaving and potentially, contributing substantially to its failure. The latest negotiations ensure Britain will have that option when the time comes.
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Ah, geez... c'mon people!

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Default Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe

Originally Posted by mrken30
Apart from the exchange rate , does anyone have views on what the consequences will be if the UK leaves Europe. Will I be able to keep my European passport? Will my kids be able to apply for a European passport? Will it affect working options in Europe? I haven't heard much on the news except how it may affect business.
Talk to Nigel c/o UKIP. He has the answers
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There was life before the EU, there will be life after it.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
There was life before the EU, there will be life after it.
But what will all the scared, paranoid, fearmongers have to shit their pants over afterwards though?

Actually, one can paraphrase you to answer that. There was immigration before the EU, there'll be immigration after it
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Originally Posted by Boiler
There was life before the EU, there will be life after it.
The Swiss are doing fine , so I don't get the doom and gloom pro-E.U. naysayers.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
There was life before the EU, there will be life after it.
I am too young to remember not being in the EU. We have been in the EU for around 40 years now. The world is a very different place to 40 years ago. Lot less trade quotas I believe.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
The Swiss are doing fine , so I don't get the doom and gloom pro-E.U. naysayers.
Not quite the same league, have you compare the chocolate and watches. Very different quality
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
If the UK leaves the EU but remains within the EEA then the current arrangements will continue unaffected.
Which is the biggest laugh about the whole thing - no-one really knows what would happen. If the UK stays in the EEA, most directives would still apply but the UK would have no say in them.
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The Swiss are doing fine , so I don't get the doom and gloom pro-E.U. naysayers.
You clearly haven't read up on the mess their referendum on leaving Schengen caused.
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Which is the biggest laugh about the whole thing - no-one really knows what would happen. If the UK stays in the EEA, most directives would still apply but the UK would have no say in them.
Which is why those pointing towards Norway as an example to follow don't make much sense.

The two biggest complaints most people have about 'Europe' - unrestricted immigration from EU countries and the role of the ECHR in overturning British legal decisions - would be wholly unaffected by Brexit as the UK would continue to be a member of the EEA and CoE respectively.
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