Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Dec 24th 2015, 12:26 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
No, he's on the no-fly list. Our friends at GCHQ most likely have dumped it into their massive database and the Americans have access to it and added the name to the no-fly list.
Dec 24th 2015, 12:28 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Dec 24th 2015, 12:45 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Dec 24th 2015, 12:59 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
No real surprise there, being born in a country of which half is currently ruled by ISIS. Her eVisitor application will need to security screened before it can be granted. It probably still will be, just not in the timeframe she is demanding. The ETA should never been issued and DIBP should have know better than to recommend it.
Dec 24th 2015, 1:46 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Why do people assume that they have a God-given right to travel where and when they want ? A sovereign state has the right to refuse a foreigner permission to enter.
Dec 24th 2015, 6:31 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Dec 24th 2015, 7:36 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Exactly. This, plus think seriously about buying travel insurance unless you judge you can absorb any financial loss (without too much pain) associated with the holiday/travel.
Dec 24th 2015, 7:49 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Travel Insurance does not cover having no visa etc.
BTW Merry Christmas
BTW Merry Christmas
Dec 24th 2015, 7:55 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Happy Christmas.
I was wondering if this was covered with standard travel insurance. But then what about this problem that's come to the fore recently, people buying tickets when they have a visa or valid ESTA, but it is revoked after the ticket purchase?
I was wondering if this was covered with standard travel insurance. But then what about this problem that's come to the fore recently, people buying tickets when they have a visa or valid ESTA, but it is revoked after the ticket purchase?
Dec 24th 2015, 8:01 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
The tickets they bought seem dirt cheap, mentioned that ESTA was relatively recent so presumably not bought a long time ago. My Brother is coming over in a month or so and he paid $1,000 to Denver.
Dec 25th 2015, 12:24 am
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
Not sure I follow you; the US can and does decide who gets to enter the US (excpeting the case of Illegals from the Southern Border).
Dec 25th 2015, 12:28 am
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
We don't really know the full story, and probably never will, BUT 2 male adults travelling with 9 children and no women present will raise flags straight away, there are many possibilities, did they have written permission from the mothers of these children? were the 9 children all theirs? and, of course the US has the right to turn away ANY person from entering the US unless they are US citizens, and they do not have to give reasons. According to the BBC this morning the UK border people turned away some 100,000 people from entering the UK this year.
David Cameron should keep his nose out of this, it's not going to go well for him. The only issue I have is the refusal of the airline to refund the flight costs, and only the flight costs.
David Cameron should keep his nose out of this, it's not going to go well for him. The only issue I have is the refusal of the airline to refund the flight costs, and only the flight costs.
Dec 25th 2015, 12:40 am
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
I see no problem in stopping people getting on a plane to the US, and in fact I can't see why any interested party (passenger, airline, US CBP) wouldn't want the passenger(s) to be refused permission to get on the plane rather than fly the Atlantic and be sent back. I would certainly not want to be sent back after an 8 hour flight if being denied permission to even board the plane was an alternative.
Jan 4th 2016, 12:47 pm
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Re: Calls for David Cameron to step in after US bars British Muslim family from trip
This is truly beyond the pale: No-fly list flags more Canadian toddlers as security risks - Toronto - CBC News
Can't they just say to the airport staff, don't bother us if they're under the age of 12 or some reasonable age?
At least they let them on the plane though, I bet if it was CBP they'd have been denied boarding!
Can't they just say to the airport staff, don't bother us if they're under the age of 12 or some reasonable age?
At least they let them on the plane though, I bet if it was CBP they'd have been denied boarding!
