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becks_r Jan 16th 2018 3:39 am

BBC iplayer version 2
 
Hi all

I was in UK for Christmas and saw a message on the BBC iPlayer page that version 2 will need to be installed from Feb 8th (I think that was the date). I tried installing it while I was in UK and it didn't work. It seemed to install but I couldn't download any programs. So I uninstalled it...

Anyone else tried it? Anyone successfully downloaded a program? Any help, as always, gratefully received.

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 16th 2018 6:11 am

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 
I'm going to give it a try in the next couple of days.

Did you un-install the old version first? I saw some 'incompatibility' warning messages out there.

notaclue Jan 16th 2018 6:53 am

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 
The BBC are making it very difficult lately to access iPlayer outside the UK....

excpomea Jan 16th 2018 8:01 am

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The only way I managed in the past was by setting up a second router as a VPN.
Seemed to work ok. but dont bother anymore what with all the available online services.

Something along these lines.

https://support.hidemyass.com/hc/en-...t-two-routers-

Then one router has a US address and one a UK.

Use the UK address for iplayer ITV and Channel 4

rpjs Jan 16th 2018 8:16 am

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Looks like this version 2 is for the iPlayer downloads app and not (yet) the VOD website.

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 16th 2018 11:30 pm

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 

Originally Posted by becks_r (Post 12420142)
Hi all...

... Anyone else tried it? Anyone successfully downloaded a program? Any help, as always, gratefully received.

I just installed IPlayer Downloads Manager app on a Win 10 laptop that did not previously have it installed. It says that this version is V2.3.0

Then I downloaded a program in HD, no problem.

Download Manager would now appear to be multi-window?

I'll now move on to upgrading the entertainment Win PC, and also the Android tablet...

---

All done. Other Win PC upgraded from version 1.14.2, downloading stuff now.

Android tablet done as well. Can't download, but thinking about it, I never could. I only use it for streaming as a backup when I'm away from the usual machine.

Nutek Jan 17th 2018 12:41 am

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12420814)
I just installed IPlayer Downloads Manager app on a Win 10 laptop that did not previously have it installed. It says that this version is V2.3.0

Then I downloaded a program in HD, no problem.

Download Manager would now appear to be multi-window?

I'll now move on to upgrading the entertainment Win PC, and also the Android tablet...

Yep.. Just reinstalled here too .. No problems. Rarely use the downloader these days though. We used to have streaming issues (resolved now) which made it more useful.

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 17th 2018 12:55 am

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Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 12420858)
Yep.. Just reinstalled here too .. No problems. Rarely use the downloader these days though. We used to have streaming issues (resolved now) which made it more useful.

I think I know why you no longer have streaming issues, they moved in with me... :(

I find the potential stuttering annoying, so have developed a routine for managing the downloads.

Nutek Jan 17th 2018 12:59 am

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12420871)
I think I know why you no longer have streaming issues, they moved in with me... :(

I find the potential stuttering annoying, so have developed a routine for managing the downloads.

You running a VPN there, or using a DNS service? Our VPN does a good job with downloads, but for streaming it's too slow and DNS is a far better solution for that.

Or..

We sent you our streaming issues. :sneaky:

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 17th 2018 1:18 am

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Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 12420876)
You running a VPN there, or using a DNS service? Our VPN does a good job with downloads, but for streaming it's too slow and DNS is a far better solution for that.

Or..

We sent you our streaming issues. :sneaky:

I'm using VPN over ADSL. Should have been fibered by now, but that's running several years late, which is pretty unusual for this place.

I use satellite for the main set-up, and that works fine except during very heavy storms.

I'm waiting for the house move to see what the next batch of challenges will be, but I'm already considering looking at DNS, so thanks for the tip.

becks_r Jan 17th 2018 2:29 am

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 
Thanks for all the replies - I did uninstall the previous version and as I was in the UK at the time, I didn't need any VPN or IP spoofing. I even uninstalled old version, rebooted, run ccleaner, installed - didn't work! Maybe the version has changed again, actually just checked - the version I downloaded was 2.2, maybe they fixed the problem.......

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 17th 2018 10:15 am

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 

Originally Posted by becks_r (Post 12420979)
Thanks for all the replies - I did uninstall the previous version and as I was in the UK at the time, I didn't need any VPN or IP spoofing. I even uninstalled old version, rebooted, run ccleaner, installed - didn't work! Maybe the version has changed again, actually just checked - the version I downloaded was 2.2, maybe they fixed the problem.......

Becks_r, this may be a long shot but which browser are you using when you go off to the BBC website? I saw some reports out there hinting at problems when using Chrome. I'm using Firefox for mine.

Just a thought. :fingerscrossed:

kins Jan 17th 2018 2:52 pm

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Iplayer buffers badly for me, on chrome. I use the bbc downloads program a fair bit. Curious to try another browser now.

Nutek Jan 18th 2018 12:45 am

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12421398)
Becks_r, this may be a long shot but which browser are you using when you go off to the BBC website? I saw some reports out there hinting at problems when using Chrome. I'm using Firefox for mine.

Just a thought. :fingerscrossed:


Originally Posted by kins (Post 12421539)
Iplayer buffers badly for me, on chrome. I use the bbc downloads program a fair bit. Curious to try another browser now.

I use a mix of Chrome, IE and Edge. I don't see a lot of difference really. Sometimes it seems one works better than another but I don't pay much attention. Mostly it's ok.

becks_r Jan 18th 2018 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12421398)
Becks_r, this may be a long shot but which browser are you using when you go off to the BBC website? I saw some reports out there hinting at problems when using Chrome. I'm using Firefox for mine.

Just a thought. :fingerscrossed:

I tried it with Firefox. I am catching up on a few programs before I try the install again, I am hoping the latest version will be ok as it seems ok for all of you....

becks_r Jan 23rd 2018 6:05 am

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 
Hi all

Well I installed 2.3 and then tried a download and had the same problem as before. Then I tried downloading from Internet Explorer and it worked. So it seems a bit flakey as regards to the product you use to access the Internet, rather than the version of iPlayer! Before trying Internet Explorer, I tried Firefox and Chrome, neither worked. Maybe there is a setting in Firefox and Chrome to fix this, but I don't know what it could be....

For anyone that is interested, here is a small review of the latest version of iPlayer.

By default it lists programs very differently from the last version when you pick any sort order but By Series. It shows each program individually, even ones from the same series. Adding a series, so each new episode is automatically downloaded, isn't just a tick box anymore. You have to actually click on the sort order By Series, then select the On/Off slider button against a program to turn the series record on or off.

When sorting programs by series, there is a More button, which goes into the series list. One weird thing I noticed in this list is there is a message telling you of other episodes available, but that isn't just the list of episodes you haven't downloaded - it's all episodes available on the iPlayer. For example, if a series has 3 episodes only and you downloaded those 3 episodes, if they are all still available online, it will display '3 other episodes available'. So it's a bit misleading, first time I read it I thought there were 6 episodes in total, not 3!!

A nice thing is you can sort by expiring soon, but it seems once a program has expired, you have to delete from the list manually.

Anyway, that's just what I noticed so far - some nice new things and some annoying ones too!!

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 23rd 2018 7:05 am

Re: BBC iplayer version 2
 

Originally Posted by becks_r (Post 12425813)
Hi all

Well I installed 2.3 and then tried a download and had the same problem as before. Then I tried downloading from Internet Explorer and it worked. So it seems a bit flakey as regards to the product you use to access the Internet, rather than the version of iPlayer! Before trying Internet Explorer, I tried Firefox and Chrome, neither worked. Maybe there is a setting in Firefox and Chrome to fix this, but I don't know what it could be....

For anyone that is interested, here is a small review of the latest version of iPlayer.

By default it lists programs very differently from the last version when you pick any sort order but By Series. It shows each program individually, even ones from the same series. Adding a series, so each new episode is automatically downloaded, isn't just a tick box anymore. You have to actually click on the sort order By Series, then select the On/Off slider button against a program to turn the series record on or off.

When sorting programs by series, there is a More button, which goes into the series list. One weird thing I noticed in this list is there is a message telling you of other episodes available, but that isn't just the list of episodes you haven't downloaded - it's all episodes available on the iPlayer. For example, if a series has 3 episodes only and you downloaded those 3 episodes, if they are all still available online, it will display '3 other episodes available'. So it's a bit misleading, first time I read it I thought there were 6 episodes in total, not 3!!

A nice thing is you can sort by expiring soon, but it seems once a program has expired, you have to delete from the list manually.

Anyway, that's just what I noticed so far - some nice new things and some annoying ones too!!

Hey becks_r glad to hear that you got to a working solution eventually. I hadn't tried other browsers as Firefox has always worked for me from the very first. Go figure...

Agree that there is some nice stuff in the new version - sort by series, expiring soon - but also some annoying - how many episodes are there really? - features, but one thing that continues to bug me - unless I've missed it, - is that it still doesn't flag unwatched episodes over stuff already seen and not manually deleted?

As I tend to set up multiple downloads to run during the day, then view late at night, I sometimes 'forget where I was'.

:(

Not a major gripe, just an oversight? It can't be that difficult.

becks_r Jan 23rd 2018 1:05 pm

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12425882)
Hey becks_r glad to hear that you got to a working solution eventually. I hadn't tried other browsers as Firefox has always worked for me from the very first. Go figure...

Agree that there is some nice stuff in the new version - sort by series, expiring soon - but also some annoying - how many episodes are there really? - features, but one thing that continues to bug me - unless I've missed it, - is that it still doesn't flag unwatched episodes over stuff already seen and not manually deleted?

As I tend to set up multiple downloads to run during the day, then view late at night, I sometimes 'forget where I was'.

:(

Not a major gripe, just an oversight? It can't be that difficult.

That bugs me too :(. What I have seen in this version is there is a pink bar across the bottom of the picture if you have watched the program. But if you click back into the program, maybe by mistake, and click on the play button again - the bar disappears!! So if you only watch a program once, the pink bar shows you have watched it, but it certainly isn't as obvious as a label saying WATCHED ;)

becks_r Jan 24th 2018 3:20 am

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OK - I got it wrong, although it seemed right at the time. The pink bar only appears if you are part way through watching. So if you watch the program but stop it before it gets right to the end of the video, like before the end of the credits, the pink bar is there. But if the video stops itself, it isn't! So back to no visible clues to whether you have watched an episode or not!

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 26th 2018 3:19 am

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Originally Posted by becks_r (Post 12426621)
OK - I got it wrong, although it seemed right at the time. The pink bar only appears if you are part way through watching. So if you watch the program but stop it before it gets right to the end of the video, like before the end of the credits, the pink bar is there. But if the video stops itself, it isn't! So back to no visible clues to whether you have watched an episode or not!

Yes, it's just the progress bar, turning from grey to pink as you view. Although it seems to report elapsed time better than the previous version, it has a mind of it's own when viewing in full-screen mode. Sometimes it will disappear as soon as the cursor is off the screen, other times it just clings on stubbornly.

BuckinghamshireBoy Jan 26th 2018 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by becks_r (Post 12426621)
OK - I got it wrong, although it seemed right at the time.

Nope, you had it right, I missed it before. It depends where you are when you 'view' the pink bar. When a download is playing then it's just a progress bar, but it stays 'as was/as is' when in the list view and that 'series' is then expanded by clicking on the 'series' title.

Each window - or the only window if there's only one item/episode - in the expanded list will have a full pink bar, a partial pink bar or no pink bar - you've watched all of it, you've watched some of it, you haven't watched any of it.

Not exactly intuitive...

BuckinghamshireBoy Feb 2nd 2018 1:40 am

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Just noticed that my installed downloads app has now jumped to V2.5.0.

Haven't had a good look yet, currently doing battle trying to get it running on my new tablet...

becks_r Feb 6th 2018 5:35 am

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12433179)
Just noticed that my installed downloads app has now jumped to V2.5.0.

Haven't had a good look yet, currently doing battle trying to get it running on my new tablet...

Ahh so has mine. I didn't see any difference

Good luck with the tablet - I just have it running on my laptop, haven't tried it on a tablet, actually haven't seen the tablet since we moved house. Like a lot of things, must be in a box!!

PBRlad Feb 10th 2018 4:39 am

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Great to have the BBC iPlayer, the comfort of still watching Dr Who!

markonline1 Feb 10th 2018 7:13 am

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Originally Posted by PBRlad (Post 12439164)
Great to have the BBC iPlayer, the comfort of still watching Dr Who!

Is that the same Dr Who that plays on a loop on BBC America? :lol:

becks_r Feb 12th 2018 3:05 am

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Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12439227)
Is that the same Dr Who that plays on a loop on BBC America? :lol:

It is - but of course the iplayer doesn't have the adverts - it seemed to take ages for me to get used to BBC programs divided up with adverts, just so wrong!


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