Wikiposts

2016 Election

Thread Tools
 
Old Nov 22nd 2016 | 5:02 pm
  #12676  
jeepster's Avatar
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 429
jeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Leslie
Jesus H. Christ. I'm already sick of this drama queen and he hasn't even been inaugurated.
America's first Independent President and you want him impeached:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...fcd_story.html
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 12:54 am
  #12677  
Leslie's Avatar
WTF?
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 79,866
From: Homeostasis
Leslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond reputeLeslie has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by jeepster
America's first Independent President and you want him impeached:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...fcd_story.html
WTF are you blathering about? I don't want him impeached. An impeachment would hurt this country even more than he has already done.

No, I don't want him impeached. I want him to stop doing things that make him so impeachable. I want him to stop creating chaos and drama around himself and get to learning the job that he spent the last year pretending to want so much.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 4:00 am
  #12678  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 201
Ebonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Leslie
WTF are you blathering about? I don't want him impeached. An impeachment would hurt this country even more than he has already done.

No, I don't want him impeached. I want him to stop doing things that make him so impeachable. I want him to stop creating chaos and drama around himself and get to learning the job that he spent the last year pretending to want so much.
Unfortunately, his interview with the NY Times yesterday will not diminish the impression that some have that he's really only in the role to blatantly enrich himself and his family, rather than improve the country.

He also has described himself as a 'counter-puncher', which, coupled with his ego and temperament, doesn't bode well for dealing with the small-scale and large-scale crises that any President of the United States faces, let alone a candidate who ran a divisive campaign.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 4:03 am
  #12679  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 11,628
morpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Steerpike
Many of the banking regulations stem from the events leading up to the great crash in 2008; or are you conveniently forgetting that? It was too easy to get money (mortgages) back in 2008, and banks were merging left, right, and center, and offering all manner of services. The regulations were designed to stop banks getting 'too big'; 'too big to fail'. I guess Trump will roll all that back, and will allow a free-for-all, which may eventually crash, leaving a democrat to pick up the pieces.
Bank managers tell me the regulations are excessive as even borrowers with good as opposed to excellent credit have problems getting mortgages, and over the last 8 years often they had to cut back credit to small businesses which had been customers for many years.

My understanding is that the big banks in some cases have even gained market share or become larger- so I am not sure whatever benefits gained may be less than the detriment to the economy and small business. In any case derivatives and lack of control of securitization of mortgages etc due to lack of up to date and enforced capital regulations more of the problem- not cutting back credit to viable businesses. Regulations just gone too far.

Same for regulations in regards to stock market and in a particular crowd-funding. SEC has done everything possible to make it difficult for smaller public companies, and frustrate the the will of Congress on crowd funding.

Add an out of control EPA, and the regulations in total can be rather stifling.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 4:09 am
  #12680  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 11,628
morpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Ebonhawke
Unfortunately, his interview with the NY Times yesterday will not diminish the impression that some have that he's really only in the role to blatantly enrich himself and his family, rather than improve the country.

He also has described himself as a 'counter-puncher', which, coupled with his ego and temperament, doesn't bode well for dealing with the small-scale and large-scale crises that any President of the United States faces, let alone a candidate who ran a divisive campaign.
Impeaching Trump will just put the country through more divisive rhetoric and wont benefit the country. If we go by his words and actions seems he will ignore the huge conflict of interest he has, and continue "stirring the pot" with his comments.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 4:10 am
  #12681  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
scrubbedexpat099 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: 2016 Election

It is inevitable it seems as societies 'progress' there are more and more regulations often for good reasons which have intended or otherwise consequences.

I could go through a whole list of things that have happened locally that in the main had good intent but fall into the well we did not mean that to happen category.

There was a bot on PBS this morning about how Trump wants to delete two regulations for every new one. Something I agree on in principle, but also haw difficult it is to do so and also something that is likely to bring unintended consequences.

No idea what the solution is.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 4:22 am
  #12682  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 201
Ebonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

One example of good-intentioned regulation gone wrong:

https://mises.org/blog/state-regulat...less-free-meal

I think the requirement for legislators to 'delete two regulations for every new one imposed' was floated as a way to try to suppress the imposition of regulations that are based on winning political 'points' rather than delivering value to the community.

Unfortunately, I think that this will drive the wrong behaviour - you will have people who develop a ridiculous regulation, and then delete two regulations that cause damage to the community down the road. You will also have people that have great ideas for improving their community, but because they don't want to try and arbitrate which regulations are to be deleted, decide to shelve their idea, impeding the improvement of the community.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 5:23 am
  #12683  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
scrubbedexpat099 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Ebonhawke
One example of good-intentioned regulation gone wrong:

https://mises.org/blog/state-regulat...less-free-meal
Inspected in this case means they applied for a license.....

Most food places get one inspection a year and according to a guy I know who was a health inspector it is very hard to get closed down. You really have to try, but as long as you pay the fee....
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 5:29 am
  #12684  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 201
Ebonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Boiler
Inspected in this case means they applied for a license.....

Most food places get one inspection a year and according to a guy I know who was a health inspector it is very hard to get closed down. You really have to try, but as long as you pay the fee....
Actually, the issue was that the 3000 lbs of food that was gathered wasn't inspected (although presumably the meat prior to cooking was inspected by the FDA), so it had to be destroyed - the issue wasn't with the homeless shelter.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 5:53 am
  #12685  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
scrubbedexpat099 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Ebonhawke
Actually, the issue was that the 3000 lbs of food that was gathered wasn't inspected (although presumably the meat prior to cooking was inspected by the FDA), so it had to be destroyed - the issue wasn't with the homeless shelter.
Meat has to be USDA inspected to be sold, or in this case presumably given away.

Where it was cooked has to be licensed as well, of it is going to be sold or presumably in this case given away.

I was wondering why they did not sell the stuff as part of the event, could be why.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 8:12 am
  #12686  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 11,628
morpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond reputemorpeth has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Boiler
Meat has to be USDA inspected to be sold, or in this case presumably given away.

Where it was cooked has to be licensed as well, of it is going to be sold or presumably in this case given away.

I was wondering why they did not sell the stuff as part of the event, could be why.
I know a local fast food place run by a decent fellow who wanted at the end of a shift to donate cooked food to local church to distribute to the poor or homeless, his insurance company when they heard about it threatened to raise his insurance premium 50% so he had to shelve idea.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 11:12 am
  #12687  
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,035
From: california
dc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Some years back while a city employee we had to switch to fire proof rain gear. When everyone employed in the field had turned in their non-fireproof raingear, jackets, hood and pants there was a mountain of them many in excellent condition. It was believed that these would be donated to the homeless but for some reason it wasn't allowed and I never could find out why.


On the other hand empty wooden cable reels could be picked up by anyone who wanted them and had the means to take them away.

Last edited by dc koop; Nov 23rd 2016 at 11:15 am.
 
Old Nov 23rd 2016 | 5:09 pm
  #12688  
jeepster's Avatar
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 429
jeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond reputejeepster has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by Leslie
WTF are you blathering about? I don't want him impeached. An impeachment would hurt this country even more than he has already done.

No, I don't want him impeached. I want him to stop doing things that make him so impeachable. I want him to stop creating chaos and drama around himself and get to learning the job that he spent the last year pretending to want so much.
Here's another good article that was originally penned in 2009 in Harper's which is by no means a conservative rag. Although the subject is obama it could help explain why Hillary lost:

http://harpers.org/archive/2009/07/barack-hoover-obama/1/
 
Old Nov 24th 2016 | 3:24 am
  #12689  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 201
Ebonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond reputeEbonhawke has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

So apparently Trump has been skipping out on the daily intelligence briefings since the election, but Pence, who's running the transition team, has been attending nearly every one.

I'm guessing that Pence has realized that he'll likely actually be the one running the country, one way or another.
 
Old Nov 24th 2016 | 5:13 am
  #12690  
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,035
From: california
dc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond reputedc koop has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: 2016 Election

Trump has it all worked out. From 8:00AM to lunchtime he'll be overseeing his businesses. One PM to five PM he'll be wearing his President's hat.

BTW let's hope that Betsy DeVos does not get confirmed. The public schools that will suffer most are those in the inner cities and here we have Trump declaring that the inner cities are one of his priorities
 


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.