2016 Election
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The only viable democratic candidate would be Joe Biden if he would run.
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I have no idea if this is true, but I'm finding it hard not to laugh......
Mexico's billion dollar drugs lord known as 'El Chapo' has gloated on Twitter about his escape from a maximum security jail by taunting authorities and threatening US-presidential hopeful Donald Trump.
Joaquin Guzman, billionaire head of the powerful Sinaloa Cartel, made his jail break on Saturday morning and is on the run from Altiplano jail, 50 miles outside of Mexico City, security officials said.
His audacious escape saw him dash through the mile-long tunnel system, which led to a building under construction next to the prison - from where he collected clothes left for him by his conspirators.
Read more: Mexican drug lord Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman taunts the world after his escape from prison | Daily Mail Online
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Mexico's billion dollar drugs lord known as 'El Chapo' has gloated on Twitter about his escape from a maximum security jail by taunting authorities and threatening US-presidential hopeful Donald Trump.
Joaquin Guzman, billionaire head of the powerful Sinaloa Cartel, made his jail break on Saturday morning and is on the run from Altiplano jail, 50 miles outside of Mexico City, security officials said.
His audacious escape saw him dash through the mile-long tunnel system, which led to a building under construction next to the prison - from where he collected clothes left for him by his conspirators.
Read more: Mexican drug lord Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman taunts the world after his escape from prison | Daily Mail Online
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Thanks for posting that information, as I hadn't thought of it in terms of security. As someone who held elected office and had to live by the rules of open communication, it is the fact a private server allows her to hide from public view those emails. Who knows what emails were deleted and therefore never released. The rules for public officials apply to all, and the fact she circumnavigated them makes her unelectable.
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Not to mention the cock up at Benghazi. There is also the possibility of somewhat dubious fundraising by the Clinton Foundation. Did they take money for favors, they have certainly not worried about making themselves look above reproach. If she is the democratic candidate I shall either vote for the republican, depending on who it is, or not vote at all.
The only viable democratic candidate would be Joe Biden if he would run.
The only viable democratic candidate would be Joe Biden if he would run.
As for the Clinton foundation ... it's a private foundation and all manner of people contribute to it, for all manner of reasons. Trying to prove 'cause and effect' here is going to be impossible (not that Fox, Koch, and others won't die trying).
Are you really saying you would consider voting Democrat, but these specific issues are dissuading you?
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Honestly ... Benghazi ... this is the 'birth certificate' of the current election. Sadly some folks died, and that's always a bad thing, but ... let's keep things in perspective here! This has been investigated to death and nothing tangible has come out of it - not that Fox news pays any attention to these facts.
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It seems like this was somewhat common practice, and I'd find it hard to assert that it makes her 'unelectable'. I guess if you could prove she was officially told not to do it and she repeatedly ignored that, maybe then you could argue she ignored the rules, but who really gives a hoot.
Are you really saying you would consider voting Democrat, but these specific issues are dissuading you?
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She could have used her private email as long as DoS were copied so it was on their servers. Failure to do so is not something to be brushed off with who gives a hoot. If she failed to do so there was a reason, she was taking steps to prevent information reaching the public domain. She is not fit to hold any public office.
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Again, you are making an assumption that she was "trying to hide" emails. There are other explanations.
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I also feel that she's a practical, competent bureaucrat who will be at least moderately effective. But I must say, seeing her in her first interview the other day, my heart sank ... she is not that good on the public stage and I fear that a charismatic Republican candidate could beat her. Luckily, that seems to be rather unlikely at the moment.
Does Hilary have a defensible position on the 'email' issue, in your opinion (Leslie)? To me (as an IT professional), a personal server is probably MORE secure than a government server, but she's not using that argument and she does seem a bit vulnerable on this one - but hopefully it doesn't amount to much overall.
Does Hilary have a defensible position on the 'email' issue, in your opinion (Leslie)? To me (as an IT professional), a personal server is probably MORE secure than a government server, but she's not using that argument and she does seem a bit vulnerable on this one - but hopefully it doesn't amount to much overall.
Secondly, I think it's completely fabricated outrage on the Republicans part and most (non Republican) voters are smart enough to see the side show for what it is. What it actually was though is lazy and typical Clinton behavior --- The rules don't apply to them. There was no reason why she couldn't have done what we all do and had a personal email account and a business email. Why she lumped them all together, so that later she had to delete her personal emails, is beyond me. However, she is allowed to have personal emails, not only permitted but encouraged as a matter of fact. So, as a general rule, if she has something to hide, she's supposed to use her personal email like a normal politician. I don't think she was doing anything nefarious or hiding any diabolical anti-American behavior. That's a ridiculous notion.
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