Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius

It was a deliberate provocation and the leftist thug got his reward delivered by a provoked black guy.

Would it also be "entirely appropriate" for a right wing guy to show up at a Sanders rally wearing a Joe Stalin mask and screaming that Sanders is a Commie?" Just asking.

Originally Posted by dc koop

It's logical to assume that if Trump or Cruz in the WH scrap the nuclear deal with Iran then Iran will just go ahead with it's plan to build a nuclear bomb. It's likely possible that Russia and China and possibly France will not go along with scrapping the deal and without the support of these countries reintroducing a new embargo against Iran wont be worth much. It's also worth considering that Putin might just decide to back Iran on any confrontation with the US since Russia and Iran are already allied in the war to keep Assad in power and for that reason I wouldn't therefore see Putin on board with a fresh embargo.

Originally Posted by dc koop

It's logical to assume that if Trump or Cruz in the WH scrap the nuclear deal with Iran then Iran will just go ahead with it's plan to build a nuclear bomb. It's likely possible that Russia and China and possibly France will not go along with scrapping the deal and without the support of these countries reintroducing a new embargo against Iran wont be worth much. It's also worth considering that Putin might just decide to back Iran on any confrontation with the US since Russia and Iran are already allied in the war to keep Assad in power and for that reason I wouldn't therefore see Putin on board with a fresh embargo.

Originally Posted by dc koop

I just have to laugh at Trump And Hillary both swearing to bring Benjamin Netanyahou to Washington if either win. What is it with this sliver of a nation Israel which would be hard to find on a world map without a magnifying glass that makes these two candidates act like two love sick high school seniors desperately wooing the cheerleading princess? Well the answer is pretty obvious. Netanyahu was no friend of Obama but an arrogant war mongering PM whose finger was itching on the trigger to bomb the crap out of Iran a year ago. Hillary doesn't have to kiss Ben's ass. The American Jewish vote is hers to take.

As for Obama.... ooops he's screwed up again gallivanting off the Cuba to meet Raul when we know that the embargo against Cuba has been an unqualified success even if it's been a bit slow in succeeding so Congress will without a doubt nix that deal.

It might have been okay to make peace with Mikhail Gorbachev and recognize Communist China but dealing with a serious threat to world stability like Cuba will be a tougher nut to crack

Originally Posted by Giantaxe

I doubt even Britain would go along with re-imposing sanctions on Iran if Cruz tears up the deal on "day one".

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius

Exactly. Whatever happened to Obama's promise that if Iran violated his legacy deal that the sanctions would "snap back?" The only snapping we hear is the sounds of deals being snapped up by western business interests. There's big money to be made in Iran, violations or no violations.

The deal is here to stay no matter what Cruz might think about it.

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius

Hey Boiler: So THIS is what "not leftie, BTW Independent, middle of the road" people think and believe? Who knew that there is no daylight whatsoever between an Independent, middle of the road guy like dckoop and a radical guy of The Left™ who hates Israel and never saw a Communist country that he didn't believe was working to increase the prosperity and expand the human rights of its citizens (to paraphrase Christopher Cuomo)?

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius

Exactly. Whatever happened to Obama's promise that if Iran violated his legacy deal that the sanctions would "snap back?" The only snapping we hear is the sounds of deals being snapped up by western business interests. There's big money to be made in Iran, violations or no violations.

The deal is here to stay no matter what Cruz might think about it.

Originally Posted by Giantaxe

A complete non-sequiteur. We're not talking about Iran violating its side of the deal - which assuredly would lead to sanctions returning - but to the US in the form if a President Cruz violating its side of it.

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius

Not a complete non sequitor at all. The conversation regarding the difficulty of reimposing sanctions encompasses the same difficulty should Iran be found to be in violation of the agreement.

In my view, a burgeoning of commerce with Iran will trump any question of reimposing sanctions should any violation be detected. "Snap back" will never happen. It was just a cool-sounding phrase to dampen criticism of the deal at a critical juncture. Do you actually trust the Russians, the Chinese and the French to honor their obligation to reimpose sanctions in the face of Iranian violations under any circumstances - assuming neither Cruz nor Trump trashes the deal on Day 1?

Originally Posted by Boiler

Wow, you are certainly not easily scared.

Originally Posted by dc koop

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As for Obama.... ooops he's screwed up again gallivanting off the Cuba to meet Raul when we know that the embargo against Cuba has been an unqualified success even if it's been a bit slow in succeeding so Congress will without a doubt nix that deal.

It might have been okay to make peace with Mikhail Gorbachev and recognize Communist China but dealing with a serious threat to world stability like Cuba will be a tougher nut to crack

Originally Posted by Steerpike

So Boiler, what are you scared of, in a Hilary presidency? Loss of your gun rights? OK, maybe that has some substance to it - I certainly hope so, but would not hold my breath. Beyond that, what is scary about her presidency?

Originally Posted by moneypenny20

It's a secret but it's one we should all know. Either that or he won't talk about it as it hurts too bad.

Originally Posted by Steerpike

The US treatment of Cuba over the past several decades has to be one of the greatest double-standards in US history. If we are truly using trade embargoes and travel restrictions against Cuba to get them to improve human rights, then why do we not do likewise with China - a rather large and powerful COMMUNIST country. Honestly - how do the Republicans rationalize that?