“Just say no to government run.............
#46
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Re: “Just say no to government run.............
I was refused a mammogram in the UK. I was about my mid-30's then. They said they were only doing them for people 40 and above. I explained that women younger than 40 get breast cancer and I didn't know the family health history as I was adopted, but that made no difference to them. Pissed me off no end. I could have been on the way to dying for all they knew or cared. Still didn't get a mammogram until I was here, before I was 40 Luckily all was well.
#47
Re: “Just say no to government run.............
Well it either has to be regulated or run by the government. Because letting the blood suckers run it means we all die.
#48
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You mean like going to the ER and your insurance company being billed $500 for one IV pain reliever?
#49
Re: “Just say no to government run.............
I was refused a mammogram in the UK. I was about my mid-30's then. They said they were only doing them for people 40 and above. I explained that women younger than 40 get breast cancer and I didn't know the family health history as I was adopted, but that made no difference to them. Pissed me off no end. I could have been on the way to dying for all they knew or cared. Still didn't get a mammogram until I was here, before I was 40 Luckily all was well.
Edited to add...
A girl I work with who is in her 40, a single mother, works 2 jobs, cannot afford health insurance but does not qualify for assitance is on a waiting list to get a free Mammogram from a charity. Same woman also has not had a physical/pap smear in years because she cannot afford the doctors fee. A while back she got a UTI she treated it herself with lots of water and cranberry juice a few weeks later the Brazillian model died from a UTI.
Last edited by Ash UK/US; Jul 15th 2009 at 8:39 pm.
#50
Re: “Just say no to government run.............
I was refused a mammogram in the UK. I was about my mid-30's then. They said they were only doing them for people 40 and above. I explained that women younger than 40 get breast cancer and I didn't know the family health history as I was adopted, but that made no difference to them. Pissed me off no end. I could have been on the way to dying for all they knew or cared. Still didn't get a mammogram until I was here, before I was 40 Luckily all was well.
BUT, if you felt strongly about this, why couldn't you pay for one for yourself, to satisfy yourself? That test runs $100 or less here if you pay yourself; it seems reasonable to me that those who want to use more service should pay for it individually.
I had my first mammo done at age 35, on my US health insurance. They like to take one around 35-40 to establish a baseline to compare future tests to.
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Seriously, though, medicine is not and has never been fully regulated by the govt. Doctors are self-regulating, through their guilds, and there's been nothing said to suggest that that's likely to change.
#56
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But I'm not particularly worried about the doctors -- by and large they're a pretty and insignificant lot who'll do what they're told to do. Rather, I'm concerned about the government regulating health care, of which doctors play merely a peripheral role outside TV soaps.
#57
Re: “Just say no to government run.............
I was refused a mammogram in the UK. I was about my mid-30's then. They said they were only doing them for people 40 and above. I explained that women younger than 40 get breast cancer and I didn't know the family health history as I was adopted, but that made no difference to them. Pissed me off no end. I could have been on the way to dying for all they knew or cared. Still didn't get a mammogram until I was here, before I was 40 Luckily all was well.
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Re: “Just say no to government run.............
Then you could say Canada's system isn't government either since most of the services we receive are from private providers.
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Food for thought:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html
The San Francisco Chronicle - October 11-15, 2004
IN CRITICAL CONDITION: HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA
In 2004, the San Francisco Chronicle published an excellent series of articles on our health care system - not much has changed since then:
Why health care costs are rising fast. Plus the Bush and Kerry health care plans.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGII96CVP1.DTL
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGII96D031.DTL
Retirees hit hard as health benefits are lost.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...UGMN979TS1.DTL
Health care tops the labor-management agenda.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...UGMN97GRD1.DTL
How Canada provides health care for all.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...GR28JFEN59.DTL
Employees are digging deeper to pay for health insurance.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...G7T8E81H63.DTL
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html
The San Francisco Chronicle - October 11-15, 2004
IN CRITICAL CONDITION: HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA
In 2004, the San Francisco Chronicle published an excellent series of articles on our health care system - not much has changed since then:
Why health care costs are rising fast. Plus the Bush and Kerry health care plans.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGII96CVP1.DTL
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGII96D031.DTL
Retirees hit hard as health benefits are lost.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...UGMN979TS1.DTL
Health care tops the labor-management agenda.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...UGMN97GRD1.DTL
How Canada provides health care for all.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...GR28JFEN59.DTL
Employees are digging deeper to pay for health insurance.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...G7T8E81H63.DTL
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Re: “Just say no to government run.............
I was trying to make a distinction between government-funded, privately provided systems (like Canada and largely like Medicare in the US) and government-funded and -provided systems (like VA and the UK NHS). My point is that comparisons to the latter set are unlikely to be too useful data points given government-provided services are simply not on the political radar here.