WA 457 When are we due an update
 

Anyone have a clue when we're due to hear some more news?

Not coping with the suspended status :(, could really do with a positive update some time very soon....:unsure:

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Hi there. I am new to this site but just to let you know I also feel your frustration! I was interviewed last May and was emailed to say that I would be recommended to go via 457 subject to references etc. I heard nothing till August when they asked to chase up a reference. This was done straight away and then I heard nothing. I decided to email a few weeks ago to see what was happening and I had the dreaded email saying that 457 was suspended. The frustrating thing is that it appears someone in admin has been sitting on my application since August and only passed it on to the officer to complete my application after the suspension date!!! (March 09). I was hoping to go out in Jan 2010 as a primary teacher but now left in mid air!! Would be grateful if anyone could give us further information. However, I feel that we are just dependent upon new vacancies appearing later in the year!!

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Hopefully Gems will come on line soon, she seems to be first to know. Fingers crossed for something very soon.

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Not sure, last I heard it may be a month or two when the top brass have a meeting and do number cruntching etc.

But will check and get back to you.

Gems

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Thanks Gems :)

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Hi, unfortunately nobody can make any decisions on when to bring you out as yet. Due to unforseen economic conditions and very recently immigration minister said Australia priority is protecting Australian jobs.
So DET is in difficult position as Immigration wants to protect its citizens.

I know its difficult for you all, but recession worries are now here in Australia.
It would be irresponsible for them to bring you out if they could not guarantee long term job or may have issues with new visa regs.

Sorry, its not the news you want but you will need to sit and wait it out.

Gems

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Is there any talk of when any high level meetings will be held so that those who've been put on hold will be given some time frame. Or will it be on a basis of when a post comes up you'll be given a short time frame to make the move?
I've seen there are changes with the visa, though not exactly sure what they are as yet...

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I have had an email from DETWA saying they will get back to me when they have news about the current situation....anyone had this email? Or was it only to those who had been interviewed and hadnt had a complete application ( in my case thanks to a narky Head not doing a reference on time....)

Yeah well am continuing at the school and do enjoy it. Maybe Oz wasnt meant to be!

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its all change with secondary teachers, new visa, new oppertunities.

maybe you should ask for a reference from someone more keen to write one?

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Got email also

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I was due out in jan 2010, primary teacher. Had same email mentioning about a likely change of visa. Sys they are still committed to employing me, but they can't say when. Hoping for news soon.

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I was also due to go out in Jan 2010 as a primary teacher. Had email about no vacancies due to economic situation etc. not told anything about new visa though!!! My application is complete and they said that they will let me know when situation changes. Still a bit confused though as DET website still has no updates on it about current situation and states that they will still require primary teachers from Jan 2010!!

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I think that the no news is good news saying is becoming tiresome. Wonder when we'll get a hint at what is happening?

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i think primary teachers should seriously look at other options for aus entry

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Nice for a positive views derek. Keep it up ;)

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i think people are looking for a bit of realism about now. i appriciate the thanks though, thankyou

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Well derek, would think you're not equipt with the interest or knowledge to answer
Link would say otherwise http://www.det.wa.edu.au/education/C...rojections.pdf
Thank you, keep trying

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If you are so in touch with the DET how about some facts rather than your opinion.
Not sure what relevance the new term has on thinking about me? :confused: Very bizarre

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Yes Derek you have been given a great opportunity, not sure how many of the June intake made it? But as wasn't on the boat nowt to do with me. Thus the comment about the new term as was never going to Aus this year regardless of any changes. As you should be aware be careful how you phrase things as people on your FB group thought you'd been gloating when you hadn't intended on doing so ;)
Isn't my FB group, I'm just a member of it, you have your FB group though, wonder if it's as quiet as the main group.

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Cheers derek
Hopefully some news will arrive in the near future so all of us waiting can decide what the next step is.

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Really hope so, I think every suitable person should be given the chance

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Very odd comment :confused:, I'd have said those that had the interview and had the job offer were suitable?

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ot an odd comment at all, suitability that I meant was very general, clearly it has more to do with interview etc if it was just that then no one would return to the UK etc

I really think you need to stop over thinking peoples comments, you are seeing things that are not there, all the best and maybe chill out a bit:blink:

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Lots of odd comments derek, think if you wrote with a bit more clarity people wouldn't get the wrong impression as you have yourself on occasions ;)

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There are no other options at present really. A 175 visa is not on CSL or MODL so won't be processed for at least a year. Mine was submitted in Sept 2008 and there is little chance of it being looked at until at least the autumn. DET WA is the route we want to take and is really our only option. No-one is sponsoring primary teachers - it's just so depressing.
The last communication I got from WA was a little more positive. Are you telling me Derek that you know something and that my optimism is misplaced?

Will

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Children, children, let's all calm down, just read the posts between two members and it seems we all need to settle ourselves a little, afterall, it is the Easter holidays, and we're all free from our classes of little monsters! So let's lighten up a little and be a bit more supportive of each other! Everyone on here has a different story and different dramas to go through so let's stick together, rather than poke nasty comments at each other like our pupils would! *RANT OVER!* :lol:

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my original comment was simply in response to the teachers that are simply waiting around for WA DET to tell them something, I don't think that is doing anyone any good. there are other options, especially if you are under 30. I was simlply suggesting , (as many people are doing) that all other options are looked into rather than waiting for the 457 to resurface.
I am afraid that someone has chosen to take any and every comment and blow it up out of proportion. as you can see Aussie bound! does have some issues with me that perhaps he shouldn't be venting on here. But its a frustrating situation and everyone handles it differently.

if you would like more info on the june 09 intakes situation i am happy to share over PM's, without breaking any confidences of course:thumbsup:

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I have no desire to go to Aussieland on a 457, I'd rather wait the bit out and go the 175 route, no matter how long it takes. Have heard there are issues with the 457, particularly in light of rising unemployment, so it'd not be the route I'd chose, but thanks anyways, and all the best in June!

(PS I take it you have given your current school notice that you're leaving in June, I'm sure it's upsetting to leave your colleagues. I've been in my current school on a permanent contract for 5 years, and when the times comes to say goodbye I think it'll be very upsetting...)

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hi jenny, i wasnt suggesting you should apply for the 457 visa, its not secret that there a few issues with it at the moment. the 175 route is good, just takes longer as you are clearly aware.
some things are worth waiting for and aus is one of them.
I think things like giving notice etc shouldn't really be discussed on a public forum.

all the best for your move

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I don't see the issue with discussing our leaving our current posts. My school are well aware that I am going through the whole process and are supporting me 100%, so it's no secret! Sorry if you took offence! :ohmy:

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no offence taken:)

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Maybe you're not intentionally gloating, but it sure comes across that way. I came out here on the 457 in Jan and loving every minute of it, but if I were you I'd be awfully careful with this sense of security you're enjoying at the moment. Speaking as someone ACTUALLY working working in a WA school, the outlook is mega gloomy for Australian teachers I work with, so how much more "foreigners" whom the the Australian government do not see as priority in scheme of things right now. In Australia, unlike back in the UK, changes happen almost instantly, and just as you put about the proverbial rug being pulled, the very same thing could happen to you weeks before you're due to set out - laws and chaneges get passed mega swiftly here! An Austalian colleague that started work in the the same time as me at the start of the school term only found out in February that all he had was a job for ONE TERM, when he went to apply for a laptop from the school. They told him he coiuld not apply for the laptop cos he was only employed for one term! Yes he jaw nearly hit the ground. I know lots of other Australian teachers struggling to get reilef work! I'm a science teacher and in our department, ther is not 1 teacher that has a full time table. The most any of us has, is 0.8. We are 1.5 people over staffed in our dept, and maths are 2 people over (yes, maths).
I spoke to Sue a couple of weeks ago to ask her how come the Jun 09 cohort were being given PR status and howcome some weren't bein employed anymore. She said that new immigration laws have demanded for the 457 route to be stopped for teachers due to economic downturn and that the projected shortages had not matrialised. Also, that there is currently only 4 PART-TIME teaching posts available in all of WA and as these posts are in the metro region they don't know whta they'll do with the UK teachers when they come over! The Oz governmment are doin everything to protect Australian employees, so Mr Goforth don't start any celebrations until you actually get here.
To the rest of you, if possible (I know it's really hard), definately source for other routes to come over, while waiting for DET - hopefully things will pick again economically. My husband is finding it very difficult to find work because nearly all jobs, no matter how basic, are insisting on PR or Oz citizenship - he's become veeeery good at housework lately, lol!
All the very best to you all and feel free to ask me any questions you may have, and I'll try to help if I can.:teeth_smile:

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could you please point out the gloating? i have expressed many times my encouragment, my best wishes and good luck for those who had the scheme cancelled/ defferred on them. i am also in contact with many teachers who are in FB who have asked my advice many many times.

i am not gloating , some of my friends have missed out ,(potentially) on coming in Jan 10. i find it quite irritating that defending oneself on this forum is automatically taken the wrong way.

but the written word is not very good at expressin emotion, never has been. I suggest that if people dont want to hear about the teachers going out in june, dont comment on my comments, seems pretty simple to me:confused:

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do you really mean there are only four part time vacancies in WA at the moment? in the whole of WA? are you being serious?

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I'm serious - straight from the DET

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only four part time and no full time? really?

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Sorry derek asking for clarification on anything said on any forum isn't wrong. Wouldn't want to take offense at something that was not intended as that would be wrong wouldn't it? :p
A bit less vague would help and comment about people being suitable for the job? Still find that one an odd comment to have made?
Thanks for your imput on this thread, no hard feelings ;)

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like i said before paul, anyone is welcome to PM me if they want info, as a couple fo people have been.

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For the record I would just like to say that I have never found Derek to be anything but helpful and would certainly not say he has been gloating since being accepted to go to WA in July. Many of us are frustrated with the current situation but it is not helpful for us to start turning on one another. It sounds as if we could all be in for a bit of a wait and I for one am trying to be patient, but I am happy for others who are going out to WA in the near future, it gives me hope that we might not be tooo far behind.

Will

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Hi, remember the situation can be different regarding shortages in Primary and Secondary teaching. Needs can go up and down like a yo yo.

Some news on the net is saying Secondary no shortage but primary will have future shortages due to rising birth rates. However this is news items so cant guarantee this.

However if your a Primary teacher do not take circumstances that are happening for High Schools to be the same.

Gems