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Old Apr 26th 2006 | 7:25 pm
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Hello,

I'm hoping for a litte help in trying to find out where in Australia
it is easiest to secure teaching positinns. (City and surrounding suburbs to 1 hour drive).

It seems that securing work is much more difficult than in the U.K.

Can someone please list the states and the related demand for teachers /
ease of securing a position.

I'm a primary school teacher and my partner is a Secondary Maths teacher.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

SG

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Old Jul 19th 2006 | 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by SUNNY-GIRL
Hello,

I'm hoping for a litte help in trying to find out where in Australia
it is easiest to secure teaching positinns. (City and surrounding suburbs to 1 hour drive).

It seems that securing work is much more difficult than in the U.K.

Can someone please list the states and the related demand for teachers /
ease of securing a position.

I'm a primary school teacher and my partner is a Secondary Maths teacher.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

SG

Thanks to Andy who has already replied


Dear SG. My girlfriend has GTP qualification in UK and we want to Emigrate to OZ. I have permanent residency. Does anyone know if she can teach with this qualification ?. Apparently if varies state to state and some people have got in...anyone know of anyone would be great

PS Apparently forget Perth..no jobs in city at all i've made enquiries. QLD may be your best bet or WA but out of city..any help on GTp would be appreciated
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 4:54 pm
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I am looking to finish my teacher training here in Victoria. I doubt that you would be able to work with GTP Qualifications here judging by the hoops that I am having to go through to prove that my degree is sufficient. You need a 4 year degree or 3 year degree and 1 year post graduate training here and there seems very little room for manouver within that.
As far as teaching here is concerned you apply for jobs as they come up and can keep an eye on what is availabe in the state system through the education website. I am doing a P-12 qualification but am particularly interested in teaching secondary English and this shouldn't be a problem (we are in a country area though). There is full time temp cover work available and I know a lot of people that keep very busy with that here.
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Old Jul 23rd 2006 | 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by NickyP
I am looking to finish my teacher training here in Victoria. I doubt that you would be able to work with GTP Qualifications here judging by the hoops that I am having to go through to prove that my degree is sufficient. You need a 4 year degree or 3 year degree and 1 year post graduate training here and there seems very little room for manouver within that.
As far as teaching here is concerned you apply for jobs as they come up and can keep an eye on what is availabe in the state system through the education website. I am doing a P-12 qualification but am particularly interested in teaching secondary English and this shouldn't be a problem (we are in a country area though). There is full time temp cover work available and I know a lot of people that keep very busy with that here.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your info. As you may be the best placed to answer this question. If my girlfriend cannot teach with GTP and studied for Post grad in Oz, how much is the approx cost and how long does it take?. A year?

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Old Jul 24th 2006 | 12:10 am
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Nicky

Thanks for your info. As you may be the best placed to answer this question. If my girlfriend cannot teach with GTP and studied for Post grad in Oz, how much is the approx cost and how long does it take?. A year?

thanks
If she has a 3 year degree then a post grad course would take a year full time and the PR rates are approx $4000 (that is commonwealth supported full fees are nearer $10000). Without the 3 year degree you would be looking at a 4 year batchelor of education not sure about the fees for that. If she wants to teach secondary school then she will need to have 2 acceptable subjects in her degree. Before applying for a course she should contact the Overseas Qualifications Unit to get her degree checked as equivalent to an Aussie degree. She can also send a transcript directly to the Victorian Institute of Teaching who will confirm whether her degree is suitable to allow her to teach once she has passed her post grad year. They will also confirm whether they will accept the GTP although I think that the answer will be no.
I will be taking a course that will allow me to teach prep to year 12 so I will be able to teach any subject to year 8 then English to year 12 which I am really loking forward to as it will give me greater flexibility.
Good luck gathering the paperwork is a nightmare.
Nicky

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Originally Posted by SUNNY-GIRL
Hello,

I'm hoping for a litte help in trying to find out where in Australia
it is easiest to secure teaching positinns. (City and surrounding suburbs to 1 hour drive).

It seems that securing work is much more difficult than in the U.K.

Can someone please list the states and the related demand for teachers /
ease of securing a position.

I'm a primary school teacher and my partner is a Secondary Maths teacher.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

SG

Thanks to Andy who has already replied
Hi SG

This article from last year suggests Maths teachers are in shortage in general in Australia:

http://www.cis.org.au/exechigh/Eh2005/EH30905.htm

And just as over here in the UK, there are more primary trained teachers. With regard to specific states, I really don't know I'm afraid, but would definately recommend contact the states you are interested in going to - I have posted the contact details for NSW and QLD on the following thread:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385736

It does appear that if you are willing to do casual / temporary work in certain suburbs of sydney - western and south western i think, then work is easier to come by (apparantly the schools can be quite tough). The page regarding casual work in NSW is here:

https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/employmen...empteacher.htm

I know its not exactly what you're after - but I really would recommend contact each state individually, although time consuming it really will give you a better idea.

Hope that helps a little - All the best!

Sammy
 
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Hi,

I am an English primary school teacher, and have just left my job. MY husband is Australian and we're moving to Western Australia. I am currently filling out the billions of forms (well, it feels like it) to register with the Western Australian College of Teaching. You HAVE to be registered with them and to have an ID number allotted to you before you can teach in Australia.

Regardless of experience, you must undertake a orientation course in Perth for a couple of weeks ,do a presentation, and have an interview. They have the right to deem you unsatisfactory, but get the impression UK teachers tend to be ok.

If you have got experience, get a statement of service from your employer, and then you will go in on the equivalent salary level, ie 3 years teaching experience in UK, you will enter on level 4 in Australia. Roughly.

The other thing to tell you is what I know about employment prospects. I telephoned the Department of Education this week, and this is what I was told:

75% of WA schools (there are approx 850) use the job placement system run by the department. You request a placement (and specify your areas etc) and they try to find you a job. There are incentives for things like the Remote Teaching Service, (details on their website) and after doing 2 years remote service you get much higher chance promised of landing a city job after that as a reward.

25% of schools arrange their employees independently, so on the 'jobs' website on the WA education department, the jobs listed are only from these 25% of schools, and you apply directly to them.

Then there are private schools, and if you google for their website, they also have a job vacancy list, and you apply to the school.

The one thing that seems relatively straight forward to me is that relief/supply teaching is arranged with less red tape. So, basically, once you've registered, you can go around to the schools in your area, show them your paperwork, drop a CV off, and say you're available for relief work.

My in-laws are in rural S.W., 20 mins from Bunbury, and this is where we definitely want to live. So my personal plan is do register and get all the paperwork done, then do relief work, and hope to get my foot in the door somewhere. My in-laws reassure me that I will find employment so problem in the SW.. .I hope they are right. THe picture painted by the guy on the phone was pretty bleak, saying "I would be very unlikely to land a plum job in the South West" - so I take it to mean that Perth is even harder...

Hum ho. Hope this helps, and look forward to hearing anyone's experiences who are going through the registering process, or anyone from the other side!!!

Good luck,

Gemma
 

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