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Teacher Salaries - Does overseas experience count?

Old Jul 28th 2011, 12:57 pm
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Hi All,

I'm still in the beginning stages - writing my IELTS test for skill assessment in 2 weeks.

I noticed that all the states (well the ones I looked at) have a progression scale for salaries according to the number of years experience you have.

Well, I was wondering if any of you knew whether your overseas experience counts for that 100%, 50% or not at all.

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Old Jul 28th 2011, 5:26 pm
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If you are talking about Australia, then yes overseas experience will count at 100% - you will need either a service statement from your LEA, or you can use TP pension statement as proof, or failing both of those letters from your school/s as proof.

This is for experience gained in UK - I would assume (although they say you never should do that) that comparable teaching countries would be the same - check with the specific state you are interested in though for your specific circumstances.

IF you are talking about teaching in America, sorry I have no idea.
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Thanks,

Yes, I am talking about teaching in Australia.

Just strange, because I posted the same question on another Forum and there someone told me that her husband is going to Australia to teach and that none of his experience is being counted towards his salary scale.

I hope you are right, but I'm still confused.

I guess I should try and contact the state I'm looking at going to and asking them.
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Thanks,

Yes, I am talking about teaching in Australia.

Just strange, because I posted the same question on another Forum and there someone told me that her husband is going to Australia to teach and that none of his experience is being counted towards his salary scale.

I hope you are right, but I'm still confused.

I guess I should try and contact the state I'm looking at going to and asking them.
Yes overseas experience counts on salasy scale. Other lady has been wrongly advised
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Perhaps he doesn't have the pre-requisite 4 year degree to be recognised as a teacher in Oz? Or maybe the experience isn't in the UK or a recognised country?
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Thanks,

Yes, I am talking about teaching in Australia.

Just strange, because I posted the same question on another Forum and there someone told me that her husband is going to Australia to teach and that none of his experience is being counted towards his salary scale.

I hope you are right, but I'm still confused.

I guess I should try and contact the state I'm looking at going to and asking them.
I had 10 years experience in the UK and went to the top of the teaching pay scale here...so yes, your UK experience does count, so long as you have proof!
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Originally Posted by Jen1977ni
I had 10 years experience in the UK and went to the top of the teaching pay scale here...so yes, your UK experience does count, so long as you have proof!
Thanks. That's what I wanted. Someone with firsthand experience.
I am not actually British. I'm South African, with 1 year experience in SA and the rest in an International American school. I hope that that will be counted.
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Australia does accept International School experience (we came via international school).

However as OP has said you will need to provide proof of this employment.

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Originally Posted by Werns
Thanks. That's what I wanted. Someone with firsthand experience.
I am not actually British. I'm South African, with 1 year experience in SA and the rest in an International American school. I hope that that will be counted.
Thanks again.
We have a friend from SA and it counted for her...
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Yes the overseas experience counts for UK at least in teaching. My father got transferred to UK, 3 months back, and got a job as a teacher very quickly and with a greater pay this time. I believe that UK is the best place for teachers as their the demand is high with a healthy salary as well. But then they give very much importance to the trained teachers with specializations.
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Originally Posted by Cailyn Brown
Yes the overseas experience counts for UK at least in teaching. My father got transferred to UK, 3 months back, and got a job as a teacher very quickly and with a greater pay this time. I believe that UK is the best place for teachers as their the demand is high with a healthy salary as well. But then they give very much importance to the trained teachers with specializations.
The UK is a terrible place for teachers, why do you think there are so many of us desperately trying to escape the sinking ship? And if you are an Overseas Trained Teacher you will have a complete nightmare to get accredited to teach here, the GTC don't really like people from overseas it would seem (from the experience of my overseas friends desperately trying to jump through all the hoops, including having to take an exam that 16 year olds have to do, despite having degrees and so on!).

If he is receiving greater pay in the UK as a teacher, God only knows where he was teaching before, we have an awful pay structure here now, on paper it might seem not too shabby in places, but anything other than MPS is not all that it appears, and the ever spiralling living costs here erode a lot of pay (eg, butter rising over 100% in a few months).

And as a final comment, there is very little work for teachers depending on the field - Primary teachers pretty much forget it, and most Secondary (the usual suspects of Maths and Sciences not really being quite as drastic, but even then for a variety of reasons, Physics in particular, isn't the easy street it used to be for jobs). Apparently 50% of our qualifying teachers now do not have jobs to go to, and a great deal are not managing to finish their induction. Go to the TES website to have a look see at the current conditions. Beware 'academies' as an extra note.

UK schools give no importance to trained teachers, no matter what the specialisation, other wise how is the rise of the 'cover supervisor' explained?
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The UK is a terrible place for teachers, why do you think there are so many of us desperately trying to escape the sinking ship? And if you are an Overseas Trained Teacher you will have a complete nightmare to get accredited to teach here, the GTC don't really like people from overseas it would seem (from the experience of my overseas friends desperately trying to jump through all the hoops, including having to take an exam that 16 year olds have to do, despite having degrees and so on!).

If he is receiving greater pay in the UK as a teacher, God only knows where he was teaching before, we have an awful pay structure here now, on paper it might seem not too shabby in places, but anything other than MPS is not all that it appears, and the ever spiralling living costs here erode a lot of pay (eg, butter rising over 100% in a few months).

And as a final comment, there is very little work for teachers depending on the field - Primary teachers pretty much forget it, and most Secondary (the usual suspects of Maths and Sciences not really being quite as drastic, but even then for a variety of reasons, Physics in particular, isn't the easy street it used to be for jobs). Apparently 50% of our qualifying teachers now do not have jobs to go to, and a great deal are not managing to finish their induction. Go to the TES website to have a look see at the current conditions. Beware 'academies' as an extra note.

UK schools give no importance to trained teachers, no matter what the specialisation, other wise how is the rise of the 'cover supervisor' explained?
Agreed, I don't think she has a clue what she's on about tbh!?!?
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