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Old Sep 26th 2019, 2:16 pm
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Facebook groups can be pretty toxic a lot of the time, generally I avoid them except for the one my daughter's teacher has for parents only, so she can share info and pictures of what they are doing in school, which is cool. I really only use it to keep in touch with family and friends back home 99% of the time anyway and for that it works well.

There was one of those for parents at my son's high school. Whine, whine, whine - nothing but complaining about teachers, wanting to school to solve every possible problem encountered by every single student ("my daughter liked the xyz salad in the machine, why did they take that one out and why hasn't the school done anything"). And all talking about how they were paying for tutors (to the tune of $5-75 per hour) to get their little darlings to do well in tests.

No thanks. I opted out after the first year.
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There was one of those for parents at my son's high school. Whine, whine, whine - nothing but complaining about teachers, wanting to school to solve every possible problem encountered by every single student ("my daughter liked the xyz salad in the machine, why did they take that one out and why hasn't the school done anything"). And all talking about how they were paying for tutors (to the tune of $5-75 per hour) to get their little darlings to do well in tests.

No thanks. I opted out after the first year.
I feel for kids who have parents like that. I get it that it's hard to 'let go' but once they're old enough to be going to school, it's really time to start backing off bit by bit, or they'll never learn how to be independent and think for themselves. We all want our kids to do well but sometimes we fail an exam, and that's OK. Of course, my daughter will freak out if she gets a B and she won't listen to me when I try to tell her that it won't affect her overall grades and that Bs are actually fine.

Kids have a lot of stress, even in elementary school. I fell like we were able to mess around a lot more when I was 9/10, but that could also be a cultural difference and it just always sucked to be a kid in the US.
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Old Sep 26th 2019, 2:39 pm
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I feel for kids who have parents like that. I get it that it's hard to 'let go' but once they're old enough to be going to school, it's really time to start backing off bit by bit, or they'll never learn how to be independent and think for themselves. We all want our kids to do well but sometimes we fail an exam, and that's OK. Of course, my daughter will freak out if she gets a B and she won't listen to me when I try to tell her that it won't affect her overall grades and that Bs are actually fine.

Kids have a lot of stress, even in elementary school. I fell like we were able to mess around a lot more when I was 9/10, but that could also be a cultural difference and it just always sucked to be a kid in the US.

I remember my son being sent to the office for talking too much in class (as usual ) in fifth grade. He got "written up" and came home in a state saying that it would "be on his permanent record". WTF did they tell him that? Why didn't they just tell him off and leave it at that?

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I remember my son being sent to the office for talking too much in class (as usual ) in fifth grade. He got "written up" and came home in a state saying that it would "be on his permanent record". WTF did they tell him that? Why didn't they just tell him off and leave it at that?
Oh god, I used to get sent to the headmaster's office all the time for swearing in class, imagine if I'd done that here

I don't understand the infatuation with controlling kids through fear over here though. Getting sent to my room after I did my homework was about as bad as I got, and even then it only ended up being for like an hour and I was always able to read or something when I was in there. It was basically 'you miss CBBC for saying **** in school'.
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Oh god, I used to get sent to the headmaster's office all the time for swearing in class, imagine if I'd done that here

I don't understand the infatuation with controlling kids through fear over here though. Getting sent to my room after I did my homework was about as bad as I got, and even then it only ended up being for like an hour and I was always able to read or something when I was in there. It was basically 'you miss CBBC for saying **** in school'.

Parents would have been called, and possibly the social worker.
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Parents would have been called, and possibly the social worker.
Oh my parents found out anyway. My mum was a dinner lady, and the headmaster lived next door to my grandparents. But ya know, I was also 6, and we were all swearing up a blue streak every day anyway, so what can you do?

At least my daughter's school so far has always kept an element of fun alongside their learning, although I do have an issue with teachers outsourcing their jobs to parents as homework. My son had a lot of stress in school, but I don't know how much of that was due to his ADHD, and how much was the school environment but I do appreciate that in high school, at least, too many kids have too much pressure on them too early on in their lives. Pile on all the (mandatory, apparently and not for fun/recreation/additional learning like they were for us) extra-curricular activities and try to squeeze in 6-8 hours of sleep a day and how much time does your average American 16-year-old have to be a 16-year-old? Man, school might have been a pain in the arse at the time but looking back, we had it much easier than I often see here. Even during A-levels, we all still had time to slack off and have some fun.
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I remember my son being sent to the office for talking too much in class (as usual ) in fifth grade. He got "written up" and came home in a state saying that it would "be on his permanent record". WTF did they tell him that? Why didn't they just tell him off and leave it at that?
Isn't that just a made-up threat? Colleges only care about grades and extra-curricula stuff, not how naughty you were in class.

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Oh my parents found out anyway. My mum was a dinner lady, and the headmaster lived next door to my grandparents. But ya know, I was also 6, and we were all swearing up a blue streak every day anyway, so what can you do?

At least my daughter's school so far has always kept an element of fun alongside their learning, although I do have an issue with teachers outsourcing their jobs to parents as homework. My son had a lot of stress in school, but I don't know how much of that was due to his ADHD, and how much was the school environment but I do appreciate that in high school, at least, too many kids have too much pressure on them too early on in their lives. Pile on all the (mandatory, apparently and not for fun/recreation/additional learning like they were for us) extra-curricular activities and try to squeeze in 6-8 hours of sleep a day and how much time does your average American 16-year-old have to be a 16-year-old? Man, school might have been a pain in the arse at the time but looking back, we had it much easier than I often see here. Even during A-levels, we all still had time to slack off and have some fun.

Part of it is the constant grading and testing. We had the do or die GCSEs and Alevels, at the end of specific years, but not the constant assessment that contributes to your overall GPA that is so important for post-secondary.
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Isn't that just a made-up threat? Colleges only care about grades and extra-curricula stuff, not how naughty you were in class.
Yes it is, exactly my point. I pointed out to my son that the odds of any uni or employer caring about a bit of pink paper in a file from when he was 10 were, well, slim.
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Part of it is the constant grading and testing. We had the do or die GCSEs and Alevels, at the end of specific years, but not the constant assessment that contributes to your overall GPA that is so important for post-secondary.
That's true, even in the non-GCSE/A-level years, we just had our Christmas exams and our summer exams and that was it. In my school, at least, your end-of-year average was used for streaming classes the following year, but after 3rd year that stopped and you stayed in that 'stream' through the end of GSCEs. In 6th form, classes were set by elective subjects and were generally much smaller anyway.

And the uni I went to only cared about grades. As long as I got one B and two Cs in my A-levels and they included physics and maths, they didn't care how many clubs I was in, or if I was a rugger bugger. Since I was doing all black-and-white answer sciences, all I had to do was memorize my notes and I was good to go. The rest of the time was spent hanging out with my mates or playing SWOS on the Amiga. Oh, for it to be 1997 again.
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Oh god, I used to get sent to the headmaster's office all the time for swearing in class, imagine if I'd done that here
When my old friend Johnny was in about grade 5 in Pilot Butte he called his teacher an asshole (he was). The teacher said "Go to the office and tell the principle what you said and get the strap." Johnny went and told him, but the principle didn't have time to strap him, so said "Just go tell him you're sorry." He went back to class, the teacher said "Well?" and Johnny said "I'm sorry you're an asshole."
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When my old friend Johnny was in about grade 5 in Pilot Butte he called his teacher an asshole (he was). The teacher said "Go to the office and tell the principle what you said and get the strap." Johnny went and told him, but the principle didn't have time to strap him, so said "Just go tell him you're sorry." He went back to class, the teacher said "Well?" and Johnny said "I'm sorry you're an asshole."
Damn, Johnny had some balls.

Luckily I was able to avoid getting caned in school, they outlawed corporal punishment in 1986, 2 years after I started primary school. I did see one kid get caned in front of us at home time once, shit was not fun to watch at all.
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Damn, Johnny had some balls.
Balls like cars, but unlike the protagonists in most of my stories, this one is still living. He was 'best man' on our railway section gang in the 70's and eventually became a foreman. The whole family was good.

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Balls like cars, but unlike the protagonists in most of my stories, this one is still living. He was 'best man' on our railway section gang in the 70's and eventually became a foreman. The whole family was good.
Nice one. Glad to head he's still around too.
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Almost everything decided to die yesterday... The light in the guest bathroom exploded,The microwave died. My OH decided the best way to push mashed cauliflower down in the brand new glass blender, on my brand new Kenwood chef ..was to stab it with a potato masher ..whilst it was rotating ( and he's an engineer) The noise was quite loud, as the entire side of the jug exploded.
Off course the jug is not in stock at out local Wortons.. and online it says its discontinued ( the only item in the list that is )
My kindle died in May ,I ordered a new one from Amazon.after several emails saying they were 'trying to deliver it'? I took the option to cancel I ordered again in July ,this time from the UK.. After three emails saying They were 'trying to deliver it ' I have a strong suspicion that they are just lying B*****s and never had it in stock ,anywhere, ever. They did send me the now pretty useless plug though I'm hooked though and will leave this order until THEY cancel it
The good news is my old Kindle sprang back to life last week. Do they go dormant in the summer ?. The bad news is it won't connect to the kindle store anymore ,so no more new books. I tried complaining on the truly awful Amazon help page..Only to be told they couldn't help me!! and to ring a number that looked suspiciously like an 0800 number ,which of course I can't use in Portugal.

I can quite see why people set fire to things.. or randomly kick cats.
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