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Old May 27th 2018, 12:10 am
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So it seems that Tommy Robinson has been sent to prison for 13 months, after reporting on a trail after being given a suspended sentence for reporting on a trial. All done in an hour with reporting restrictions on the case. I am only hearing this from right wing social media, so who knows what is true. But the alt-right seem to have their knickers in a real twist over this one. Demos outside #10.

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How weird, that the Fox article switches horses about halfway through and recalls the cases of several American neo-fascists who were denied entry to the UK. Nothing to do with the Robinson case which is the main point of the article.
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Old May 28th 2018, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
So it seems that Tommy Robinson has been sent to prison for 13 months, after reporting on a trail after being given a suspended sentence for reporting on a trial. All done in an hour with reporting restrictions on the case. I am only hearing this from right wing social media, so who knows what is true. But the alt-right seem to have their knickers in a real twist over this one. Demos outside #10.

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Right-wing activist Tommy Robinson reportedly jailed after filming outside child grooming trial | Fox News

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRt-iFANWKg

Three, I think, rather than thirteen. More's the pity. He was under a suspended sentence of three anyway, suspended for 18 months, but violated the terms. At least this is according to the Independent.

I would rather have had people just show up and point and laugh at him than have him arrested, but apparently the law frowns upon people being filmed and presented to the public as guilty before they have actually been convicted of anything.

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Three, I think, rather than thirteen. More's the pity. He was under a suspended sentence of three anyway, suspended for 18 months, but violated the terms. At least this is according to the Independent.

I would rather have had people just show up and point and laugh at him than have him arrested, but apparently the law frowns upon people being filmed and presented to the public as guilty before they have actually been convicted of anything.
He broke the law but the right wing believes Britain had a Muslim judiciary
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He broke the law but the right wing believes Britain had a Muslim judiciary
Does that mean we can have him flogged in public? That wouldn't be all bad.
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Default Re: Tommy Robinson in the slammer

From what I can glean from the very limited information available, he has been jailed for violating the terms of the previous suspended sentence.

I'm more concerned at the total news blackout on this subject and on the Leeds grooming trial. Why is this one deserving of secrecy but trials of Rolf, DLT and numerous others played out in full public view?
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Reporting restrictions lifted
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Lion missing the bigger picture.

Who cares what his politics are? Breach of the peace? Bullshit. Trumped up charges. He was just there with two other people.
His "crime" is that he is a thorn in the side of the government. He shone a light on the politically correct police who turned a blind eye to a gang of pedophiles because they were Muslim.

The disgraceful thing is that he was "disappeared" by the state and its goons, and the media blackout is positively Orwellian. What a shithole police state the UK has become.
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Lion missing the bigger picture.

Who cares what his politics are? Breach of the peace? Bullshit. Trumped up charges. He was just there with two other people.
His "crime" is that he is a thorn in the side of the government. He shone a light on the politically correct police who turned a blind eye to a gang of pedophiles because they were Muslim.

The disgraceful thing is that he was "disappeared" by the state and its goons, and the media blackout is positively Orwellian. What a shithole police state the UK has become.
He is racist scum who got what he deserved , .
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He is racist scum who got what he deserved , .
There seems to be room to think that he got what he deserved and wonder at the appropriateness of a media blackout on a conviction.
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He is racist scum who got what he deserved , .
I see you don't quite understand the concept of freedom of speech. Racist, extremist, offensive speech needs to be protected. That's the whole point.
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I see you don't quite understand the concept of freedom of speech. Racist, extremist, offensive speech needs to be protected. That's the whole point.
You clearly do not understand the concept of racism of far right parties andvufair history, of attacks on people just because of their colour or nationality.
Are you just as tolerant of Muslim extremists ?
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Actually, I'll wager I know far more about extremism, fascism, totalitarianism, genocide and democide - and history in general - than you. Even the ACLU has represented the KKK.
Let ideas - good, bad, repugnant - speak for themselves.

When the state starts censoring and restricting the media - you're on the edge of a very slippery slope. Remember the farce with Gerry Adams and dubbing his voice?
Thank god for the 1st amendment. Thank god there are still people who realize that freedom of speech is paramount. Mark Meechan, the Scottish Nazi Pug guy, has a gofundme as he's going to fight his conviction.
So far it stands at 191K UKP.
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You clearly do not understand the concept of racism of far right parties andvufair history, of attacks on people just because of their colour or nationality.
Are you just as tolerant of Muslim extremists ?
Yes, I am tolerant of Muslim extremists with respect to their ability to be heard. I don't think censoring their stuff does anyone any good, because what do we censor next?
Let views - no matter how vile - see the light of day.

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Originally Posted by Octang Frye View Post
Actually, I'll wager I know far more about extremism, fascism, totalitarianism, genocide and democide - and history in general - than you. Even the ACLU has represented the KKK.
Let ideas - good, bad, repugnant - speak for themselves.

When the state starts censoring and restricting the media - you're on the edge of a very slippery slope. Remember the farce with Gerry Adams and dubbing his voice?
Thank god for the 1st amendment. Thank god there are still people who realize that freedom of speech is paramount. Mark Meechan, the Scottish Nazi Pug guy, has a gofundme as he's going to fight his conviction.
So far it stands at 191K UKP.
You have not answered the question, do you agree with the same freedoms being offered to a Muslim extremist.
Would you be happy for one to stand outside of your house, castigate you for your lifestyle, insist on your daughters wearing the burqua etc .
Or do you only support the rights of white racists..
I grew up in a time and place when the UK national from today's EDL, set fire to Asian shops, put fireworks and dog shit through letter boxes, referred to such things as Paki pox..
We have laws against racial incitement, protecting the judicial process and enforcing prior convictions and being a white racist does not exclude from them.
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