Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
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#723

I find it incredible that so many people have already written her off as so much trash for someone else to dispose of, based on the "evidence" of media reports. Would the same be done in other circumstances - would you suggest that the girlfriend of a burglar should suffer the same fate as her partner? Or is there something special about her, apart from her being in the spotlight?
Daesh follow a perversion of Islam, a cruel and unforgiving doctrine that attempts to "justify" the mistreatment of their victims.
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#729

So, all white South Africans who lived there during apartheid are racists - or just the UK migrants who moved there?
#730

I would imagine that the ones who said they were, were, why should we not believe them?
#731

Despite much wriggling, nobody has justified the treatment of this woman (and others) set against the return of over 400 actual fighters, who did all she did and more.
#732

If I was King I would not have let any of the 400 in, assuming that is correct, or whatever the number is, but I am not and I realise we are where we are. A deeply unpleasant place and only going to get worse, much worse.
It is now part and parcel of living in the UK, and of course many other places, times change.
#733

She has not denied it so irrelevant to this thread.
If I was King I would not have let any of the 400 in, assuming that is correct, or whatever the number is, but I am not and I realise we are where we are. A deeply unpleasant place and only going to get worse, much worse.
It is now part and parcel of living in the UK, and of course many other places, times change.
If I was King I would not have let any of the 400 in, assuming that is correct, or whatever the number is, but I am not and I realise we are where we are. A deeply unpleasant place and only going to get worse, much worse.
It is now part and parcel of living in the UK, and of course many other places, times change.
There is no king and precious few absolute powers, so you would have to abide by legal process. Belief in something that others find abhorrent is not punishable - there are plenty of people in the UK who would be in trouble if it were. Only if crimes are committed and proven can punishment take place (apart, of course, from those incarcerated without trial or charge in Guantanamo - who could not be treated in the same way in mainland USA). Are you suggesting that this is another case where normal mores should be put aside? To do so is a slippery slope.....
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Denied what? Has she admitted carrying out any crimes, has she been charged? As far as I have seen she has said she was a housewife - and her husband has said the same. I think what she did is wrong, I think her beliefs are wrong, I despair that an apparently intelligent young woman chooses to forego the comforts of western privilege. Any misdeeds on her part should be punished, but under the law, not by casting her out and destroying her by proxy.
There is no king and precious few absolute powers, so you would have to abide by legal process. Belief in something that others find abhorrent is not punishable - there are plenty of people in the UK who would be in trouble if it were. Only if crimes are committed and proven can punishment take place (apart, of course, from those incarcerated without trial or charge in Guantanamo - who could not be treated in the same way in mainland USA). Are you suggesting that this is another case where normal mores should be put aside? To do so is a slippery slope.....
There is no king and precious few absolute powers, so you would have to abide by legal process. Belief in something that others find abhorrent is not punishable - there are plenty of people in the UK who would be in trouble if it were. Only if crimes are committed and proven can punishment take place (apart, of course, from those incarcerated without trial or charge in Guantanamo - who could not be treated in the same way in mainland USA). Are you suggesting that this is another case where normal mores should be put aside? To do so is a slippery slope.....
This is the bit that worries me, as stated earlier.