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Old Jun 6th 2019, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by Ingles View Post
Today 6th June D Day is being remembered !
British - Canadian & USA Troops swarmed ashore in Normandy
They died in there thousands
A memorial is in place where the first troops landed.
The Heads off Government from France & UK are there as is a representative from Canada
Where is the head off Government off USA who is absent ?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48536906
Later, US President Donald Trump will accompany Mr Macron at the US War Cemetery at Omaha Beach.
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353 View Post
I'm sorry you went through a health scare while in the States. I hope and pray everything is much better for you now.
I do find it interesting you feel the healthcare was better in the States. In what way would you say the care was better?

My wife, I and the kids will be moving to the UK by the end of next year and the plan is to have both private and the national health insurance and mostly because we don't know what to expect once over there. But we feel very optimistic.

Do you feel that the care in the UK is better in some ways compared to what you've experienced in the States? May I also ask which state in America did you call home?

One of the issues I have with the co-pay system in the States is for seniors once retired. I think it's unjust that people who are retired and making a lot less money should be forced to have supplemental insurance or secondary insurance. Often times these insurance plans can cost $400 per month which is not always possible on a fixed budget.
The US healthcare was quicker and they are happy to scan & test more quickly - on a population-level the excess testing is a waste of money, but on a personal level it catches cancers earlier which gives better treatment results.

With a PPO one could go straight to the relevant specialist, in the UK you can wait weeks for an appointment with your GP (Primary) who will then prevaricate with delaying tactics and cheaper options (X-ray before MRI).

The UK is likely a better place for those on low incomes - as someone else is paying for their healthcare.

Are you talking co-pay or co-insure?

I lived in California.
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 9:55 am
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Here's a question.
Which BLUE states do you believe Trump has the better chance of winning to achieve the elusive 270 electoral count?
Bush Jr was able to win 286 electoral votes in 2004 by taking Virginia, Nevada, and Colorado. But due to national migration because of high cost of living in places like California, New York, New Jersey ect, all three of those states are now reliably Blue States.
Trump pulled off in my opinion a one off, meaning I don't think he can win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin again because they are blue states.
What's Trump's best chance states to flip?
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Like the companies that build hospitals, supply food, beds, medicines etc?
Don't throw a wobbly Boiler,. As others here have now educated you; PFI, US pharmaceuticals, extortionate agency's with their bills for temporary staff necessitated by the low pay culture of your Bast### Tory friends. But my own personal favourites the ambulance-chasing lawyers with their Claims whenever something, as it will, goes wrong.
Absolute nonproductive Prime Candidates, IMO, for Special Camp treatments

Originally Posted by Ingles View Post
Today 6th June D Day is being remembered !
British - Canadian & USA Troops swarmed ashore in Normandy
They died in there thousands
A memorial is in place where the first troops landed.
The Heads off Government from France & UK are there as is a representative from Canada
Where is the head off Government off USA who is absent ?
Playing GOLF in Ireland
Well ingles at least he got through the ceremony without a tantrum, tweet or groping any women's crotch.
The adults maybe can now have a sensible informal discussion while the spolt brat plays with his toys.

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Old Jun 6th 2019, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Is it raining in Ireland ?
Why could he not be there for this morning ceremony ?
+ His round off Golf yesterday I should imagine ,will if you did the figures, be the most expensive round off Golf ever.
Will he thank the USA's Tax Payer for paying the bill,will he -uck !
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 10:55 am
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A article in Time Magazine by Suketu Mehta
http://time.com/5594365/america-immigration-future-economic-growth/

It is well worth a read
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
The US healthcare was quicker and they are happy to scan & test more quickly - on a population-level the excess testing is a waste of money, but on a personal level it catches cancers earlier which gives better treatment results.

With a PPO one could go straight to the relevant specialist, in the UK you can wait weeks for an appointment with your GP (Primary) who will then prevaricate with delaying tactics and cheaper options (X-ray before MRI).

The UK is likely a better place for those on low incomes - as someone else is paying for their healthcare.

Are you talking co-pay or co-insure?

I lived in California.
Cape, my daughter worked in the USA for one year on an exchange basis. She was upset at the patients having evidence of a lung tumour on ordinary X -ray but no money for further scans, they would be weeping and distraught. Quite against rules the doctors tried to get them onto a 'research' list where they wouldn't have to pay.
In the UK a patient with a suspicion of malignancy MUST have a hospital appointment within 2 weeks. An ordinary X-ray ordered by GP will be done in days. It is a waste to MRI everyone!!

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Old Jun 6th 2019, 11:14 am
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Cape, my daughter worked in the USA for one year on an exchange basis. She was upset at the patients having evidence of a lung tumour on ordinary X -ray but no money for further scans, they would be weeping and distraught. Quite against rules the doctors tried to get them onto a 'research' list where they wouldn't have to pay.
In the UK a patient with a suspicion of malignancy MUST have a hospital appointment within 2 weeks. An ordinary X-ray ordered by GP will be done in days. It is a waste to MRI everyone!!
Her patients should have purchased suitable health insurance.

As I said above, it's a waste to over-scan on a population level, but on a personal level it is a benefit.
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 11:29 am
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The Trump Family Vacation !
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...amily-vacation
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Old Jun 6th 2019, 12:59 pm
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On a lighter note ... The funniest protest signs

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Whats your suggestion? The tax payers suck it all up? I work in the financial side of healthcare, trust me, it’s good that they have skin in the game. The rest of us have too.
I would put an additional five cents on fuel at the pumps to help subsidize healthcare for seniors. I wouldn't mind paying a little extra to help out folks that have given much in building this country. In my opinion my parents generation was the true building block for this nation. Why not give back a little bit to them.

Trump is taxing us with no relief in sight with all these tariffs, and prices on everything is going up as a result. At least with a five cent increase on fuel there would be a very good reason for it and a smart result as well.
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I would put an additional five cents on fuel at the pumps to help subsidize healthcare for seniors. I wouldn't mind paying a little extra to help out folks that have given much in building this country. In my opinion my parents generation was the true building block for this nation. Why not give back a little bit to them.

Trump is taxing us with no relief in sight with all these tariffs, and prices on everything is going up as a result. At least with a five cent increase on fuel there would be a very good reason for it and a smart result as well.
Tax the people who can least afford it.
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353 View Post
I'm sorry you went through a health scare while in the States. I hope and pray everything is much better for you now.
I do find it interesting you feel the healthcare was better in the States. In what way would you say the care was better?

My wife, I and the kids will be moving to the UK by the end of next year and the plan is to have both private and the national health insurance and mostly because we don't know what to expect once over there. But we feel very optimistic.

Do you feel that the care in the UK is better in some ways compared to what you've experienced in the States? May I also ask which state in America did you call home?

One of the issues I have with the co-pay system in the States is for seniors once retired. I think it's unjust that people who are retired and making a lot less money should be forced to have supplemental insurance or secondary insurance. Often times these insurance plans can cost $400 per month which is not always possible on a fixed budget.
If you wish to discuss NHS/US healthcare please open a new thread rather than taking this one off topic.

Please note. All further posts on healthcare in this thread will be deleted.
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The future of healthcare is hardly off topic when Trump and his cohorts will certainly attempt to repeal the ACA again and gut Medicare if they get a second term.
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It was nice to see him give his speech at the Normandy D-Day service at Omaha Beach today without all the usual self-aggrandizement and cheap shots he's so fond of taking, even if he is a terrible speaker. He has trouble reading off the tele-prompter, and I think he knows it; everyone else can't miss it.
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