kimilseung

...and I am saying that those attitudes are far from rare, under the surface they still burn, and that these recent years in the USA, and to an extent other places has, displayed how fragile our norms of today are. Turning blind eyes, promoting when we benefit from actions over others suffering, does not help to keep them buried it helps foster their return.
(but yes, you moved your goalposts)

scrubbedexpat098

Neither does it help to accuse people of fostering views that they don't.

kimilseung

Looks a bit defensive, what could you mean by that?
This is so far from Churchill and him being the bulwark of freedom.

scrubbedexpat098

Not defensive, just stating a fact, you draw conclusions on someone based on one aspect of their opinion, and it's beyond you to entertain the possibility that you're wrong. Of course the fascists, white supremacists still exist, no-one is denying that but many have had that badge pinned on them unfairly because they don't subscribe fully to the views of you and your ilk. It's a very good way to make someone seem unreasonable and easier to tear down.

kimilseung

You are still a bit hurt-feeling from a post a couple of months back then? thats what this is all about? Sorry I made a reasonable inference, although not a sure fire fact. Happy to take you at your word, but you do have a bit of a history of ambiguous odd posts like you are inviting assumptions from them, then jump back all hurt and insulted..

yellowroom

Because he is a public servant and Director of NIAID.

I agree he is doing a great job. But should anyone at that age be the key leader for such an important role? Or should he be introducing a team of equally impressive scientists that he has mentored such that public faith is still maintained in the inevitable event of Fauci’s retirement? For example, according to Wiki, Faucis deputy at NIAID is Hugh Auchincloss. Does he have Faucis public profile or popularity?

I am not pointing fingers at the individuals and the quality of the jobs they are doing. I am concerned about a lack of acknowledgment that none of us live forever. Having an equally qualified and publicly known team/deputy/alternative around them, ensures continuity.

by presenting them as uniquely qualified to do the job, there is a great risk that there is a lack of public confidence when you get to the day they are unable to do the job. The unspoken strategy of having a younger and vibrant, popular deputy works for Biden, why not Fauci too?

caretaker

Switching to an expensive single malt director now instead of the humble blended Fauci would seem to indicate a lack of trust.

DaveLovesDee

Senator Johnson seems to be trying to strong-arm the Biden administration.


Also posting this to the Trump thread..

BristolUK

If he thinks the process is vindictiveness what the hell does he consider rushing through all those executions to be?
Not to mention the firings after falling out.

scrubbedexpat099

Protesters clash with authorities outside Portland ICE facility

https://nypost.com/2021/01/24/protesters-clash-with-authorities-outside-portland-ice-facility/I assumed Biden would not want to be known for tear gassing MPP's.

robin1234

OK, thanks, your assumption is duly noted.

DaveLovesDee

I'll respond to this in two parts, first in the way you wrote it, then in the context I presume you meant it in.

1. Did Biden actually personally tear gas anyone? No... I presuming the on-scene commander actually ordered it as well, and that Biden probably wasn't even consulted.

2. I assumed prior to it happening that no U.S. President would want to to be known as someone who tear gassed people doing nothing, just so they could be photographed outside a church... Now we've both made incorrect assumptions.


But you're not going to let a few facts dissuade you from trying to pin every negative on Biden, are you?

Steerpike

If they really did ignore the warning, and they were armed, then F**K them and round them up.

I said it last year, and it's so much more relevant today after the Capitol events. Smashing up property, rioting and looting, should be perfectly valid justification for being tear-gassed and locked up.

dakota44

Just to make a point...remind me what public profile and popularity Fauci had before he became the face of the battle against Covid. I, like pretty much almost everyone with no direct connection to knowledge about Fauci, had never heard of him. I had no idea who he was before this. What I kinow now is that he is the one I want in charge. As for Dr. Auchincloss, no he is not on your tv screen every day. So what? You should have looked him up.

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/hugh-auchincloss-md

Giantaxe

I guess I've lived in this country longer than most on here.... Fauci is an absolute public health hero for his recognition of and work on the AIDS/HIV crisis from the early '80's onwards. He received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from George W Bush in 2008, having been described as an American hero by Bush Senior during a presidential debate in 1988. This country owes a great debt to him.

https://drt.cmc.edu/2020/03/23/georg...fauci-in-1988/