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Old Jun 1st 2019, 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Yes, because you are talking about the brexit-induced softening of sterling and I am showing you that it needed to happen regardless to rebalance our economy.
Maybe their forecasts weren't very good?
BOOM - it did.


You were talking about investment, which it does have something to do about.
BOOM! You're absolutely correct!
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Old Jun 1st 2019, 6:10 am
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BOOM! You're absolutely correct!
In Brexit land more money going out of your account than coming in is a good thing.
That is what the trade balance billions higher than forecast means.
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Old Jun 1st 2019, 7:03 am
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You can tell you are a Corbynista. πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”
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I see the infinite monkeys have invaded again. Damn them and their attempts at knocking out Shakespeare.
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Trump administration wants UK to leave EU, says adviser John Bolton


​​​​​​51st state here we come. The NHS budget is about 125 billion. After privatising it, the budget will increase at cost of insurance holders.

Not a bad catch for US healthcare services.
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Trump administration wants UK to leave EU, says adviser John Bolton

​​​​​​51st state here we come. The NHS budget is about 125 billion. After privatising it, the budget will increase at cost of insurance holders.
Not a bad catch for US healthcare services.
Too true. But, in fairness ami, all he's doing is to follow history and proclaim, via His Creature, edicts for his Provinces.
I'm reminded that in the 200's AD, Britain was divided into 2 regions, Britannia Superior and Britannia Inferior by Septinius Severus / Caracalla, and later into 4 sub-provinces - Oh look, a modern parallel!. The point is that this was done by the resident administrators of the Emperor who granted them complete local control, with all the trappings. These strong-men even issued their own imaged coinage, in return for continued lap-dog status (Indeed when the separatist empire to which Britain belonged came close to collapse in the 270's) only then did Rome take back control.
Then, those arrangements were necessary given the time delays in travel & communications, now it's just a matter of Himself showing off his testicles. Today I see he has even declared his preference for the next UK PM; - he may call it an endorsement, but we know it's an Order.
VASSAL STATE, ANYONE ???
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post

Trump administration wants UK to leave EU, says adviser John Bolton


​​​​​​51st state here we come. The NHS budget is about 125 billion. After privatising it, the budget will increase at cost of insurance holders.

Not a bad catch for US healthcare services.

Trump wants a no deal Brexit because he wants an in to the NHS, and that's why he likes Boris, Boris would sell off the NHS in a heartbeat if he could.
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
Because if they did care about business and the economy they would have recognised the severity of the damage they are inflicting on those same things by refusing to accept the democratic decision. In their heads its got bugger all to do with the economy. It's just a dirty smokescreen to justify their anti-democratic behaviour.
Typical , comment makes no sense !
One day ,one off your lot will get there fact's right!
Those tasked with carrying out the majorities decision to leave the EU failed miserably !
Why , they had NO bloody idea off the complexity off the task they took on.
It's easy to bla - bla -bla & also LIE thru your arse ,but when "push comes to shove" there boy's trying to do a man's job"
Once it became clearer as to the way this would affect the UK & possibly themselves they got collective "brain freeze"
Therefore the situation the UK is in now !
But because your chosen bunch off "tossers" made a ball's up off the job, rather than admit this, you blame those who where not involved

Just a point , I don't understand as to why you personally are so rabid on this subject ?
Don't you live on the other side off the planet ?
I live in Portugal ,denied the right to vote , as it stands now I have been personally financially affected by the majority decision to leave.

+ As & when you may care to read this ,please digest it before you reply
To help you understand , "what goes'on behind closed doors" is the relevant phrase
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-in-parliament

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Old Jun 1st 2019, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Red Eric View Post
I see the infinite monkeys have invaded again. Damn them and their attempts at knocking out Shakespeare.
The infinite number of monkeys would at least be able to come up with a vew on Brexit they are agreed on unlike labour under Corbyn.
What is his view today, tomorrow and the day after.
He does not know so how can anyone else be expected to.
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
Trump wants a no deal Brexit because he wants an in to the NHS, and that's why he likes Boris, Boris would sell off the NHS in a heartbeat if he could.
And not just the NHS.

Those who are currently complaining that the EU strikes a hard bargain should see what its like doing trade "deals" with the USA. Huge concessions from the UK will be demanded, and no doubt given, and the doors of the UK will be prised wide open for whatever products and (US-owned) businesses the US wants us to have. Anyone who thinks we will trade with the US as equals should have even the most cursory of looks around the world. And on top of that, we will also become a pawn in their trade battle with China. Lucky old sovereign UK, eh?

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Old Jun 1st 2019, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by EMR View Post
The infinite number of monkeys would at least be able to come up with a vew on Brexit they are agreed on unlike labour under Corbyn.
What is his view today, tomorrow and the day after.
He does not know so how can anyone else be expected to.
I fail to se the relevance of these digressions to the matter of the Tory Party leadership / next PM, on which I believe you were making a prediction.

Anyway, I think I've got it clear now - you're suggesting one or both of the names on the final ballot will be no-deal Brexiters, and as far as you're concerned it's a foregone conclusion that's what the winner will be. Correct?
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Old Jun 1st 2019, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
And not just the NHS.

Those who are currently complaining that the EU strikes a hard bargain should see what its like doing trade "deals" with the USA. Huge concessions from the UK will be demanded, and no doubt given, and the doors of the UK will be prised wide open for whatever products and (US-owned) businesses the US wants us to have. Anyone who thinks we will trade with the US as equals should have even the most cursory of looks around the world. And on top of that, we will also become a pawn in their trade battle with China. Lucky old sovereign UK, eh?
Yep - and with the trade comes the harmonisation of other things, like product standards and labour laws. Still, the US manages to survive quite happily with its versions of those, so it's all good news, isn't it?
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Leadership election candidate MP support numbers: Gove 29, Hunt 29, Johnson 28, Raab 23, Javid 17, Hancock 11

This is a daily count of MP's who declared who they will vote for. Loads have not come forward with their info though. All to play for
Total declared 159 ... EMR's choice (Mr Stewart) has 3 votes, incl himself.
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Yep - and with the trade comes the harmonisation of other things, like product standards and labour laws. Still, the US manages to survive quite happily with its versions of those, so it's all good news, isn't it?
Indeed. What's a little child hunger, poverty, food deserts, gun violence, sky-high health care cost, environmental degradation, and even worse distribution of wealth than the UK.

Fun times ahead in those sunlit uplands. Someone will cash in, but it won't be "the people".

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rged-us-europe
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... EMR's choice (Mr Stewart) has 3 votes, incl himself.
To be fair, EMR did say he hasn't got an earthly.

Obviously one to keep an eye on

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
Indeed. What's a little child hunger, poverty, food deserts, gun violence, sky-high health care cost, environmental degradation, and even worse distribution of wealth than the UK.

Fun times ahead in those sunlit uplands. Someone will cash in, but it won't be "the people".

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rged-us-europe
Those would have happened anyway - it's all down to peoples' lifestyle choices and an inability to defer gratification.
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