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Dick Dasterdly Mar 19th 2017 2:06 pm

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Ami's gonna love this...,

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph


IT'S official: Russians are the world's worst tourists, beating the Germans to first place.

The "world's worst holidaymaker" poll, created by the Real Holiday Reports website, surveyed more than 1000 Britons who went abroad this summer to Spain, France, Cyprus, Malta, Italy, Turkey, Greece and Portugal.

The majority (a third of all votes cast) gave the flashy Russians - now dubbed "the new Germans" - the thumbs down, de-throning the Teutons from their long-term "least popular" perch, Ananova reports.

According to the poll, Britons are now complaining that Russians hog those precious sun-loungers, eat "almost everything" at all-inclusives, belch, swear and dress like chavs."

You're slipping up Ami.
.... only second worst now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ers-ROOMS.html

For years the Germans have been the undisputed champions of holiday rudeness.
But it seems their long reign has at last come to an end.
The Russians are now considered the most unpleasant holidaymakers in the world, a survey revealed yesterday.
They won first place thanks to their appalling taste in fashion, terrible table manners, and – worst of all – habit of hiding sunloungers in their rooms overnight to ensure a spot at the pool.

amideislas Mar 19th 2017 2:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12208155)
Not sure of your point?? Who has mentioned banning anything?

Comparable logic: Solving nonexistent problems with delusional solutions.

amideislas Mar 19th 2017 2:13 pm

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Dick, seriously, get a life.

EMR Mar 19th 2017 2:20 pm

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This will pee off certain people and upset many who voted brexit.
In his interview on BBC this morning Tony Blair referred to the majority of immigrants into the UK who are NOT from the EU.
Those brexit voters who hope for a significant reduction in UK immigration figures will not be happy.
He did admit that the UK should have applied the 4 year moratorium to immigration from countries like Poland when they first joined but stated that this will not have made a lot of difference.

la mancha Mar 19th 2017 2:41 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12208148)
There's a stretch, Dick.

There's also some truth in the stereotypical "Brit abroad"
It's official: Brits abroad are biggest boozers



http://www.blogcdn.com/travel.aol.co...rits-drunk.jpg

A new survey has confirmed what most of us probably already suspected: that Brits are Europe's heaviest drinkers on holiday.

Well, we've got to be the best at something, haven't we?

The poll by Tripadvisor found that we might deserve our infamous 'Brits abroad' reputation, with 65 per cent of us saying we drink more when we're away than at home, compared with only 41 per cent of Europeans doing the same.

The survey of 6,000 holidaymakers from the UK, France, Italy, Germany and Spain, showed that while 29 per cent of Brits enjoy five or more alcoholic drinks a day while abroad, only 10 per cent of Europeans do so.

It's not all bad news, though. The results also revealed that we're the least likely to smoke more when we're on a break, with Italians enjoying a holiday puff the most.

And while 94 per cent of Britons are careful about applying sunscreen, 12 oer cent of the French admitted to not caring about it all.

So who came out the healthiest holidaymakers? Brits came in third, while Italians trailed at the bottom, and Spaniards picked up the most healthiest crown.

Look, I know some Brits aren’t saints when on holiday or out on a Saturday night but we don’t hold all the records, because:

It’s official: Spain is the biggest user of cocaine per head.

2011

Tres de cada 100 españoles son adictos a la cocaína, la mayor cifra en Europa
España es el país europeo donde más cocaína se consume por habitante, por delante del Reino Unido e Italia, según ha destacado hoy en Viena la Junta Internacional de Fiscalización de Estupefacientes


Which roughly translates that Spain has the highest number of cocaine users per percentage head, three in every hundred Spanish are cocaine users, the highest figure in Europe,in front of the UK and Italy.

2014

España sigue a la cabeza de Europa en consumo de cocaína y cannabis.

(Spain remains at the head of Europe in cocaine and cannabis consumption.)

Se estima que alrededor de 2,2 millones de jóvenes europeos de entre 15 y 34 años (el 1,7% de este grupo de edad) consumieron cocaína el año pasado, que sigue siendo la principal droga estimulante. España encabeza la clasificación ya que el 3,6% de los jóvenes consumieron cocaína el último año, más del doble que la media comunitaria. Le siguen Reino Unido (3,3%), Irlanda (2,8%) y Dinamarca (2,4%). Los países con menos consumo son Grecia yRumanía (0,2%).


You've got to be best at something, haven't you?

I don't like this 'and what do you do?' argument but let's not imply all Spanish are saints.

España sigue a la cabeza de Europa en consumo de cocaína y cannabis | España | EL MUNDO
Tres de cada 100 españoles son adictos a la cocaína, la mayor cifra en Europa | España | elmundo.es

la mancha Mar 19th 2017 2:50 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12208172)
Why do we need to leave to keep our sovereignty? We have a permanent opt-out from anything to do with closer political union. And a veto over any attempt to change that opt-out.



Fine. Let's do that. And while we're tightening the immigration rules, let's ban people from 'visiting' the UK for six months every year and effectively semi-permanantly living in the UK without having to apply to immigrate.



Trade has changed considerably over the years, but sure, let's go back to trade tariffs and quotas. The 1960's and early 70's were a boom time for the UK, weren't they? Here's the UK GDP from 1950 onwards.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk...1393.85_1500.8

Which just happens to coincide with Mrs Thatcher's premiership. Your graph is old news as is my answer.

iano Mar 19th 2017 2:52 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12208179)
He did admit that the UK should have applied the 4 year moratorium to immigration from countries like Poland when they first joined but stated that this will not have made a lot of difference.

If that's what Blair claims, then it's nonsense.

Not implementing available transitional controls (like Germany, France et al) resulted in the rise of UKIP, the rest is now history.

Bipat Mar 19th 2017 2:59 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12208172)

1)
Fine. Let's do that. And while we're tightening the immigration rules, let's ban people from 'visiting' the UK for six months every year and effectively semi-permanantly living in the UK without having to apply to immigrate.


2)
Trade has changed considerably over the years, but sure, let's go back to trade tariffs and quotas. The 1960's and early 70's were a boom time for the UK, weren't they? Here's the UK GDP from 1950 onwards.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk...1393.85_1500.8

1) You have mentioned this before. What have you got against people visiting? Presumably they are bringing in money from elsewhere.

2) Post war recovery took some time!

amideislas Mar 19th 2017 3:05 pm

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OK you win:

Proof positive: Foreigners are a bunch pathetic drunks and drug addicts ...and criminals, too. Explains why you're afraid of 'em. And you're right, there does seem to be a cocaine trade. Although the trade seems to be most prevalent in the one resort that has traditionally been exclusively frequented by "non-foreigners".

Hey, if the £350 mil can't go to the NHS, maybe they could spend it on beefing up home security from that threat. I seem to remember B&Q has a sale on deadbolts, window bars, security doors, and burglar alarms. You never know.

Anyway, on that topic, I just realised I'm surrounded by foreigners, so, to stay safe, I've been thinking about maybe some rocket propelled grenade launchers, and maybe some anti-aircraft stuff. Do I need to order those from the UK? They're a bit hard to find around here (because, you know we're sort of backward, third-world and unsophisticated around here).

Bipat Mar 19th 2017 3:06 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12208179)
This will pee off certain people and upset many who voted brexit.
In his interview on BBC this morning Tony Blair referred to the majority of immigrants into the UK who are NOT from the EU.
Those brexit voters who hope for a significant reduction in UK immigration figures will not be happy.
He did admit that the UK should have applied the 4 year moratorium to immigration from countries like Poland when they first joined but stated that this will not have made a lot of difference.

It was Tony Blair who was PM at the time who decided not to apply the 4 year moratorium.

The reduction in total numbers of immigrants and the fairness in having the same entry requirements for immigrants regardless of nationality are two separate issues.

(What has anything to do with Tony Blair now anyway?)

Bipat Mar 19th 2017 3:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12208174)
Exactly, mind they're not too popular with the Germans I hear. ;)

I don't know, very few German tourists come here, although plenty of Germans come on business visits.

EMR Mar 19th 2017 3:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12208195)
It was Tony Blair who was PM at the time who decided not to apply the 4 year moratorium.

The reduction in total numbers of immigrants and the fairness in having the same entry requirements for immigrants regardless of nationality are two separate issues.

(What has anything to do with Tony Blair now anyway?)

Do you think that many those who voted Brexit will be happy if total immigration numbers do not fall but those from the EU do ?

Blair is just as entitled to his view as anyone else, even though you do not like the truth he is saying.
Many brexit voters are anti immigration, all immigration as you will soon come to realise.

Bipat Mar 19th 2017 3:56 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12208206)
Do you think that many those who voted Brexit will be happy if total immigration numbers do not fall but those from the EU do ?

Blair is just as entitled to his view as anyone else, even though you do not like the truth he is saying.
Many brexit voters are anti immigration, all immigration as you will soon come to realise.

Do you think that many of those who voted remain will be happy if total immigration numbers do not fall?

Blair is entitled to his view, (you are stating it is the truth!), he was admitting his own mistake!

Why would immigration numbers from the EU fall or not fall?
If all are admitted according to needed skills the numbers of EU/non-EU are bound to vary, from year to year. Why are you assuming that EU migrants will always be less valuable??

DaveLovesDee Mar 19th 2017 4:07 pm

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12208189)
Which just happens to coincide with Mrs Thatcher's premiership. Your graph is old news as is my answer.

Exactly, coincidence.

The UK's fortunes as a result of joining the EU took time to improve, and Thatcher government reaped the benefits.

Annetje Mar 19th 2017 4:40 pm

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Nearly fell off my chair ... a realistic article in the mail was brought to my attention !!!

Peter Hitchens on David Cameron, Theresa May, and the Navy | Daily Mail Online

Scaring :p


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