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Given your history, trans, female and black are the last thing you coukd be.
Not one of those desrcriptions could be attributed to you.

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Brexit and leaving would mean the end of FREE movement of EU migrants not necessarily a reduction in numbers, the aim would be the admission of those with necessary skills regardless of whether they were from EU or non-EU.

As I said the reduction of overall numbers is a different issue. The numbers admitted can be changed according to needs, unlike the compulsion of 'free movement'.

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I don't think either Jonathan Portes or the NIESR in general subscribe to your view that there is a static number of immigrants, only the proportions of which change according to how many EU migrants exercise their freedom of movement rights ;). So their forecasts are based on the premise that the government, in limiting EU migration, will be reducing overall migration (because, presumably, they already have all the control they could wish for on non EU immigration).

And neither, clearly, having done the research, do they subscribe to la mancha's rather rigid views about the size of the labour pool and its effect on wages.

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:blink: Are you sure that's what Brexiters voted for???

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The article said a reduction in migration from the EU, which would happen if free movement ended purely because some don't want to apply for visas, while others would have their application rejected for various (and not always sensible) reasons.

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I suppose those reasons also apply to potential non-EU migrants?

Why do you think Post -Brexit there would be a difference between the two groups in the capability of filling in a visa form and why do you think the applications of EU migrants would be treated in a less "sensible" way than non-EU migrants?

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But those reasons already factor into the numbers of successful non-EU applications.

I didn't say a difference between the two groups, I said a difference between pre-Brexit and post-Brexit EU nationals.

I didn't say that either. I suggested that some EU national visa applications would be refused for non-sensible reasons. In the same way that some non-EU applications are refused for non-sensible reasons.

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So what is the problem? Post Brexit the numbers and skills will be according to need and can change if necessary. If EU or Non-EU people don't wish to fill in visa forms or don't have the necessary skills they will not be coming to the UK!! The proportions of EU and non-EU migrants will vary from time to time it is unlikely to be static.

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Its certainly not what Teresa May is promising with a damatic reduction in TOTAL numbers of all immigrants where ever they come from.
Of course that will not happen..

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:goodpost:

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whoop whoop :thumbsup:

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Could you give us a link to the agreement that has been signed between the UK and the EU to that effect?

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But the vote isn't binding, that will occur once the Supreme Court has given it's ruling, then there may well have to be a further vote, and this one WILL be binding.

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Your lack of knowledge is evident yet again.
It is not binding on the government which is what the case in the supreme court is all about.

Lets see just how much detail of the governments negotistiong position it sets out.
That is what the vote was for..