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Ahh, back to the old hope that the EU could collapse at any moment. I thought that left the room about the same time as our misspelt cartoon character. But I reckon old habits die hard.

Hey, how's that Brexit thing going? Have you rid yourself of that inferior pit of despair yet?

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"Stitch each other up as often as they do" - could we have some examples of the sort of thing you're talking about there, please? (And could you leave aside anything to do with refugees for the purposes of this question).

Thanks :thumbup:

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Sounds like a daily express narrative. Entertainment, not journalism. But it's easy to confuse the two, especially when "entertainment" is presented as "journalism".

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No because you know full well that some EU countries have tried to do each other over when it comes to that particular very serious problem.

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Then surely that's as good a reason as any for the UK to just call it quits. We probably should never have joined in the first place and definitely don't fit in these days now that the EU is moving towards increasing federalism.

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Indeed, when you came begging to join the EU being the sick man of Europe, they should never have taken pitty ...

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Exactly how do you understand the EU President is appointed? And where is it not transparent and not democratic?

What reasons do you have for suggesting MEPs are not accountable to their constituents?

Reason? Don't you mean an excuse?

Maybe we shouldn't have joined the EU, but then there'd be a hard border with RoI because they joined and we didn't, and the Good Friday Agreement provision for a continued open border would have been almost impossible to negotiate.

Increasing Federalism? Are you referring to the 'ever closer union' that the UK had secured yet another opt-out from?

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UK "came begging", to join the EEC----a difference.

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That's one point we agree on. England has never been keen on being a part of anything else (unless it's in charge of it). And it definitely isn't in charge of the EU, and never will be. They're all foreigners, after all.

Personally, despite the unfortunate consequences for Britain, and the handful of irritations the EU will endure, I believe in the long run, the EU will be much better off without a deluded, isolationist member with a veto.

England? Well, the upside is that it can still be in charge of its island (well, part of it, probably).
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The EEC, not the EU, a completely different animal.

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Well, 3/4's of it. And only if they keep the DUP happy in the other 1/4. #TakingBackControl

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It amazes me how some Brits on here talk about Brit arrogance as if it is nothing to do with them. Either you are a Brit or you are not. We are all in the same boat as far as others see us.

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I think, at the moment it is : Either you're a Brexiteer or you are not ..... The others see 2 boats.

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Well I didn't. My parents were only kids themselves back then.

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That too. An awful lot has changed since then.