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Cape Blue Mar 22nd 2018 2:17 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12467742)
Especially "uncontrolled" ones.

If you repeat a word often enough it becomes a fact you know.

We do not control the quality or quantity of EU migrants - ergo "uncontrolled".

Cape Blue Mar 22nd 2018 2:19 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12467771)
The irony of it all.

There is no irony? The UK gov chose the best bidder for the price, the UK believes in free trade, where is the irony in that?

Red Eric Mar 22nd 2018 2:21 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12467816)
However, in this case it isn't because on this occasion it was bound by EU regulations to open up the bidding but only to EU firms.

:o Well I got that completely wrong!

Apparently there is no obligation under EU rules for passport printing to be opened to bids from outside sources at all, so it was a completely free choice of this government's.

Cape Blue Mar 22nd 2018 2:22 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12467816)
Printer's gonna print :)



And everybody else, according to you.

However, in this case it isn't because on this occasion it was bound by EU regulations to open up the bidding but only to EU firms. And next time round it will be able to close it down to UK firms only, unless the government ties us in to agreements which decree otherwse.

Interesting the De La Rue guy said:


He said that in France, as a foreign-based firm, De La Rue would be barred from bidding to produce the French passport.
I wonder if that is true?

Red Eric Mar 22nd 2018 2:23 pm

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Just corrected that in the post above. Seems there's a bit of misinformation swirling about - I wonder why?

Cape Blue Mar 22nd 2018 2:24 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12467827)
:o Well I got that completely wrong!

Apparently there is no obligation under EU rules for passport printing to be opened to bids from outside sources at all, so it was a completely free choice of this government's.

Well the British have always been better Europeans than most of the others, opening up our labour market, spending sufficient on our NATO defense, now allowing foreign companies to print our passports.

Red Eric Mar 22nd 2018 2:28 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12467829)
Well the British have always been better Europeans than most of the others, opening up our labour market, spending sufficient on our NATO defense, now allowing foreign companies to print our passports.

One would have thought now would be a rather perverse choice of time to be demonstrating it, though - especially over that particular issue and given that it implies the loss of British jobs.

EMR Mar 22nd 2018 2:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12467829)
Well the British have always been better Europeans than most of the others, opening up our labour market, spending sufficient on our NATO defense, now allowing foreign companies to print our passports.

How about allowing the Germans Japanese and Koreans to rebuild our auto industry.
Others to our utility companies.
Our atomic power industry.
Just imagine what the UK would be like without them.

There is nothing to stop you or any Brit working in the EU.

Cape Blue Mar 22nd 2018 2:44 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12467833)
How about allowing the Germans Japanese and Koreans to rebuild our auto industry.
Others to our utility companies.
Our atomic power industry.
Just imagine what the UK would be like without them.

There is nothing to stop you or any Brit working in the EU.

Yes, we've been a very open society whereas our EU friends often restrict foreign ownership via poison pills or other "national interest" restrictions.

EMR Mar 22nd 2018 2:48 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12467837)
Yes, we've been a very open society whereas our EU friends often restrict foreign ownership via poison pills or other "national interest" restrictions.

Really, the reason we have so much foreign ownership is simple we do would not have the resources public or private.

Without them we would not have an auto industry.
Who would be building Hinckley point ?

Cape Blue Mar 22nd 2018 2:52 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12467838)
Really, the reason we have so much foreign ownership is simple we do would not have the resources public or private.

Without them we would not have an auto industry.
Who would be building Hinckley point ?

Of course we do or could - we've just been a proponent of free market economics and have opened up our market which has allowed others to benefit. It's a shame they are so protectionist and restrictive in their own markets.

EMR Mar 22nd 2018 2:56 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12467840)
Of course we do or could - we've just been a proponent of free market economics and have opened up our market which has allowed others to benefit. It's a shame they are so protectionist and restrictive in their own markets.

Why,
What happened to our British owned British managed auto industry.
What we produced few wanted certainly not overseas.
Whereas the UK auto industry of today is producing not just what the UK consumer wants but products that they can export .

007Steve Mar 22nd 2018 3:05 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12467819)
I am sure that Indian ,American, Chinese printers can do it for less.
It what our post brexit free trade world will be all about.

:lightbulb: :lightbulb: :lightbulb:... with things at present I'm sure Russia would want to give us a quote.... They do a 1st class job on with fakes...:nod: :nod: :nod:

Lion in Winter Mar 22nd 2018 3:10 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12467823)
We do not control the quality or quantity of EU migrants - ergo "uncontrolled".

So who are all those people in uniforms at the borders then, if it is uncontrolled?

It may be uncontrolled by your special definition, but that is applicable only to you.

Lion in Winter Mar 22nd 2018 3:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12467816)
Printer's gonna print :)


Sacré bleu!!


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