la mancha

When I was a kid I had this clockwork train set. The engine pulled two carriages and it went round and round and round…A Remoaner bought an AM radio. It took him a month to figure out he could play it at night.

Cape Blue

Guts - or sticking to an idiotic doctrine and unable to change with the times?

EMR

Sounds like the definitive Brexiter, still stuck in 1970 and believing that the UK will return to those times after brexit.

Shard

Yes, it's unbelievable how many (older) Brexiters are completely stuck in the 1970s. The refrain is always "we only voted to join the Common Market". How people like this can sell this generation of youngsters short is a travesty.

morpeth

As I understand he was given orders to never surrender so he didn't- and it took his former commanding officer to get hi to give up. He ended up a wealthy farmer in either Brazil or Peru.

Boiler

EU leaders complicit in torture of refugees and migrants, Amnesty says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-amnesty-says

Red Eric

Red Eric

Disgraceful.

Mind you, it was what a lot of people seemed to be demanding as an alternative to considering their claims on arrival in the EU

EMR

Have you had a road to Damascus conversion.
Are you advocating open EU borders, free access to all those fleeing wars and oppression .
Welcome to the world of humanity.

Assanah

Not for the EU. He is British isn't he. His voice will soon not be heard in the Union anymore. But he can of course speak for the UK. I am sure the EU will organise the travel of the refugees through EU territory into British territory.

Shard

That's a tough one, but I think Amnesty is being over zealous in its criticism. Perhaps they too are 'complicit' in not being effective in lobbying the government to stop such abuses taking place? The bigger question is what can be done to reduce migration from Africa to Europe.

Annetje

Will DD ever start growing a brain ???
I really do not understand Mayhem doesn't sack him.
He (together with Bojo) do so much harm to the negotiations (if one can call it that), the EU must despair and then laugh their heads off ...
The UK must start to understand that negotiating is just that, negotiating, and not bullying your way around, making things up as you go.

Brexit: European Parliament chief condemns 'unacceptable' David Davis remarks as backlash grows | The Independent

The EU has, rightfully, replied with amendments which really will bind the UK keeping up the agreement.

Reply from Verhofstadt on twitter :

Bipat

The first page of the Joint Report--states--

"Have reached agreement in principle"
"Under the caveat that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed".
"Does not prejudge any adaptation that might be appropriate".

InVinoVeritas

David Davis was guilty of drawing attention to an inconvenient truth. The mantra "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" was first uttered by an EU negotiator.

EMR

So the Prime minister shaking hands on the agreement means nothing to you.
Do you think for 1 second that agreement to progress discussions would have been reached if the EU thought the UK would disregard the points agreed before the ink was dry.
Are you that scared of an agreement with the EU that may not result in the brexit you wanted , what ever that is.