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Old Dec 11th 2017, 9:12 pm
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When I was a kid I had this clockwork train set. The engine pulled two carriages and it went round and round and round…A Remoaner bought an AM radio. It took him a month to figure out he could play it at night.
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Old Dec 11th 2017, 9:52 pm
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His name was Hiroo Onoda, and he held out on his own for 29 years until his former commander personally ordered him to surrender in 1974.
When he returned to Japan he was mobbed as a hero.
Guts.
Guts - or sticking to an idiotic doctrine and unable to change with the times?
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Old Dec 11th 2017, 10:09 pm
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Guts - or sticking to an idiotic doctrine and unable to change with the times?
Sounds like the definitive Brexiter, still stuck in 1970 and believing that the UK will return to those times after brexit.
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Old Dec 11th 2017, 11:41 pm
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Sounds like the definitive Brexiter, still stuck in 1970 and believing that the UK will return to those times after brexit.
Yes, it's unbelievable how many (older) Brexiters are completely stuck in the 1970s. The refrain is always "we only voted to join the Common Market". How people like this can sell this generation of youngsters short is a travesty.
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Guts - or sticking to an idiotic doctrine and unable to change with the times?
As I understand he was given orders to never surrender so he didn't- and it took his former commanding officer to get hi to give up. He ended up a wealthy farmer in either Brazil or Peru.
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EU leaders complicit in torture of refugees and migrants, Amnesty says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-amnesty-says
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Old Dec 12th 2017, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
When I was a kid I had this clockwork train set. The engine pulled two carriages and it went round and round and round…A Remoaner bought an AM radio. It took him a month to figure out he could play it at night.
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EU leaders complicit in torture of refugees and migrants, Amnesty says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-amnesty-says
Disgraceful.

Mind you, it was what a lot of people seemed to be demanding as an alternative to considering their claims on arrival in the EU
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Old Dec 12th 2017, 7:37 am
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EU leaders complicit in torture of refugees and migrants, Amnesty says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-amnesty-says
Have you had a road to Damascus conversion.
Are you advocating open EU borders, free access to all those fleeing wars and oppression .
Welcome to the world of humanity.
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Have you had a road to Damascus conversion.
Are you advocating open EU borders, free access to all those fleeing wars and oppression .
Welcome to the world of humanity.
Not for the EU. He is British isn't he. His voice will soon not be heard in the Union anymore. But he can of course speak for the UK. I am sure the EU will organise the travel of the refugees through EU territory into British territory.
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EU leaders complicit in torture of refugees and migrants, Amnesty says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-amnesty-says
That's a tough one, but I think Amnesty is being over zealous in its criticism. Perhaps they too are 'complicit' in not being effective in lobbying the government to stop such abuses taking place? The bigger question is what can be done to reduce migration from Africa to Europe.
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Will DD ever start growing a brain ???
I really do not understand Mayhem doesn't sack him.
He (together with Bojo) do so much harm to the negotiations (if one can call it that), the EU must despair and then laugh their heads off ...
The UK must start to understand that negotiating is just that, negotiating, and not bullying your way around, making things up as you go.

Brexit: European Parliament chief condemns 'unacceptable' David Davis remarks as backlash grows | The Independent

The EU has, rightfully, replied with amendments which really will bind the UK keeping up the agreement.

Reply from Verhofstadt on twitter :


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Old Dec 12th 2017, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Annetje View Post
Will DD ever start growing a brain ???
I really do not understand Mayhem doesn't sack him.
He (together with Bojo) do so much harm to the negotiations (if one can call it that), the EU must despair and then laugh their heads off ...
The UK must start to understand that negotiating is just that, negotiating, and not bullying your way around, making things up as you go.

Brexit: European Parliament chief condemns 'unacceptable' David Davis remarks as backlash grows | The Independent

The EU has, rightfully, replied with amendments which really will bind the UK keeping up the agreement.

Reply from Verhofstadt on twitter :

https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/s...40781684719616
The first page of the Joint Report--states--

"Have reached agreement in principle"
"Under the caveat that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed".
"Does not prejudge any adaptation that might be appropriate".
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Old Dec 12th 2017, 4:30 pm
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The first page of the Joint Report--states--

"Have reached agreement in principle"
"Under the caveat that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed".
"Does not prejudge any adaptation that might be appropriate".
David Davis was guilty of drawing attention to an inconvenient truth. The mantra "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" was first uttered by an EU negotiator.
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Old Dec 12th 2017, 4:32 pm
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The first page of the Joint Report--states--

"Have reached agreement in principle"
"Under the caveat that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed".
"Does not prejudge any adaptation that might be appropriate".
So the Prime minister shaking hands on the agreement means nothing to you.
Do you think for 1 second that agreement to progress discussions would have been reached if the EU thought the UK would disregard the points agreed before the ink was dry.
Are you that scared of an agreement with the EU that may not result in the brexit you wanted , what ever that is.
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