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007Steve Nov 17th 2017 6:57 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12383815)
And only after national courts have considered the case already, in most cases.

:goodpost:... People always seem to forget that point.

Red Eric Nov 17th 2017 7:08 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12383884)
Did you actually read Red Eric's post that I answered??

The word "trade" was not mentioned. The words were "climate change, hunger and war", and a group of nations doing something about it. The Commonwealth fits that description.

:lol: :thumbsup:

Red Eric Nov 17th 2017 7:11 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12383897)
Regarding the Comonwealth as a group of nations with any gobal influence , with much in common other than a historical link is narrow minded and living in the past.

:eek: with the UK back at the helm it's a bright new future, full of sunlit uplands and lots of shiny new policies which everyone has to agree to on action against climate change, war and famine. And means of enforcing the binding agreements on transgressors.

Oh, hang on a moment ....

Red Eric Nov 17th 2017 7:12 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12383839)
A group of nations will do more but I do not think the UK being a member of the EU or not will make any difference. There are other groups Commonwealth for one example.

As you said "agreed on the best ways of doing so"---actually doing--not just discussion and plans.

It is actually doing in some areas. Obviously a bit tough going sometimes when certain member states keep kicking up about being part of any joint initiatives, although that might become a little easier in the future ;)

EMR Nov 17th 2017 7:38 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12383995)
:eek: with the UK back at the helm it's a bright new future, full of sunlit uplands and lots of shiny new policies which everyone has to agree to on action against climate change, war and famine. And means of enforcing the binding agreements on transgressors.

Oh, hang on a moment ....

To be fair there is global group of countries who have stated that their intention is to end energy production using coal fired power stations.
The Commonwealth is involved in this essential move, well two countries, the UK and New Zealand
Commonwealth unity at its best.

Bipat Nov 17th 2017 7:58 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12383815)
And only after national courts have considered the case already, in most cases.

You use the words "most" and "after"!

The final court is supreme.

Bipat Nov 17th 2017 8:03 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12384007)
To be fair there is global group of countries who have stated that their intention is to end energy production using coal fired power stations.
The Commonwealth is involved in this essential move, well two countries, the UK and New Zealand
Commonwealth unity at its best.

Many Commonwealth countries are those that most suffer most from climate change.

Climate change and the Commonwealth | The Commonwealth

EMR Nov 17th 2017 8:09 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12384019)
Many Commonwealth countries are those that most suffer most from climate change.

Climate change and the Commonwealth | The Commonwealth

Explain why then only two members are determined to close down coal fired power stations.
It's just another talking shop.
At least our brexit ministers have backed off trying to fool us into believing that the commonwealth will ensure a post brexit economic revival.

Bipat Nov 17th 2017 8:43 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12384023)
Explain why then only two members are determined to close down coal fired power stations.
It's just another talking shop.
At least our brexit ministers have backed off trying to fool us into believing that the commonwealth will ensure a post brexit economic revival.

Two countries with smaller populations. Other countries are reducing such power stations and massively increasing solar power.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN1A51YN

Brexit ministers are busy elsewhere at the momant! That doesn't mean talks are not continuing regarding post Brexit deals, by other officials.

EMR Nov 17th 2017 8:47 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12384037)
Two countries with smaller populations. Other countries are reducing such power stations and massively increasing solar power.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN1A51YN

Brexit ministers are busy elsewhere at the momant! That doesn't mean talks are not continuing regarding post Brexit deals, by other officials.

India has plans to build new coal fired power stations.
It is phasing out old ones but not reducing its reliance on coal.
$10billion dollars to be spent on new coal fired power stations.
Yes brexit ministers are busy, trying to save our relationship with the EU something that really matters.

iano Nov 17th 2017 9:05 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Ireland’s Prime Minister Leo Varadkar was withering in his criticism of Britain, saying in Gothenburg: “Sometimes it doesn’t seem like they’ve thought all this through.”
You don't say, Leo.

May reassures nobody

Bipat Nov 17th 2017 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12384039)
India has plans to build new coal fired power stations.
It is phasing out old ones but not reducing its reliance on coal.
$10billion dollars to be spent on new coal fired power stations.
Yes brexit ministers are busy, trying to save our relationship with the EU something that really matters.

With a billion + population nothing happens overnight, already fulfilled the Paris Climate Agreement targets, unlike some non Commonwealth countries. As I said massive increase in solar power use.

Post Brexit life will go on; we live in the world EMR and have other relationships. There are 195 countries not just 27!!

EMR Nov 17th 2017 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12384049)
With a billion + population nothing happens overnight, already fulfilled the Paris Climate Agreement targets, unlike some non Commonwealth countries. As I said massive increase in solar power use.

Post Brexit life will go on; we live in the world EMR and have other relationships. There are 195 countries not just 27!!

Massive increase in both solar and coal.
One day you will realise that there has been nothing stopping the UK trading with the other 162 nations.
Nothing to stop us increasing our exports to them.
Why are exports to the EU growing at a faster rate than to non EU countries.

macliam Nov 17th 2017 9:46 am

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Originally Posted by iano (Post 12384046)
You don't say, Leo.

May reassures nobody

Ireland has "skin in the game" and is as close a friend as the UK have in the EU. However, at best, the UK negotiators are still trying to win their own arguments, not addressing the concerns of the other EU members.

Red lines for phase2 talks were agreed before talks started, but the UK seem to be saying "trust us to do the right thing" and pushing it's own agenda, whilst the other EU leaders can read the rabid ravings of the europhobes and can see that May is incapable of shutting them down. So they want substantive commitment to ensure that there is no going back should anyone later tell them to "go whistle".

Unfortunately, a country brainwashed by years of paranoid headlines is only too happy to listen to those who happily misuse statistics to suggest that there will be no longterm cost of leaving a trading bloc. Now, reasonable requests to abide by commitments are presented as "threats", "demands" and "blackmail".......

EMR Nov 17th 2017 9:52 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by macliam (Post 12384059)
Ireland has "skin in the game" and is as close a friend as the UK have in the EU. However, at best, the UK negotiators are still trying to win their own arguments, not addressing the concerns of the other EU members.

Red lines for phase2 talks were agreed before talks started, but the UK seem to be saying "trust us to do the right thing" and pushing it's own agenda, whilst the other EU leaders can read the rabid ravings of the europhobes and can see that May is incapable of shutting them down. So they want substantive commitment to ensure that there is no going back should anyone later tell them to "go whistle".

Unfortunately, a country brainwashed by years of paranoid headlines is only too happy to listen to those who happily misuse statistics to suggest that there will be no longterm cost of leaving a trading bloc. Now, reasonable requests to abide by commitments are presented as "threats", "demands" and "blackmail".......

Watching yesterday's Daily Politics yesterday the " border " issue was being discussed.
The " hard " brexit Tory referred to cross border trade as being of little significance with the Republic having far more to lose than the North and the UK.
Old attitudes are firmly ingrained in some.
Nothing would please them more than for the Republic to break ranks and agree its own trading terms with the UK.


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