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amideislas Aug 20th 2016 3:44 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
I'm not all that surprised that people don't realise there has been no brexit, but I'm a bit surprised the media pays so little attention to it. Virtually everything they publish on the subject seems to be based on the premise that we are in a post-brexit world. But to date, there has been NO brexit.

The markets do pay attention, though.

U.K. Said to See Brexit Most Likely Triggered by April 2017 - Bloomberg
The pound dropped the most in two weeks on the news.

jimenato Aug 20th 2016 4:34 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Obviously, Brexit is so utterly disastrous for the country, Europe and the world that no-one - businesses, markets etc. can bring themselves to believe that May will ever be in a position to push the button.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 20th 2016 6:41 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Well at least Merkel one thing right.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/163804...st-take-place/


"NO GOING BACK Angela Merkel says Brexit is ‘irrevocable’ and negotiations for Britain to leave EU must take place
The German Chancellor has insisted there is no way to reverse the UK's historic vote this summer"

Annetje Aug 20th 2016 7:12 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12030966)
Well at least Merkel one thing right.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/163804...st-take-place/


"NO GOING BACK Angela Merkel says Brexit is ‘irrevocable’ and negotiations for Britain to leave EU must take place
The German Chancellor has insisted there is no way to reverse the UK's historic vote this summer"


Hmmm, looks like ''The Sun'' reads the ''Independent''

Brexit is 'irrevocable' and negotiations must take place, says Angela Merkel | Europe | News | The Independent

:eek::eek::eek:

amideislas Aug 20th 2016 7:25 pm

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That's very wise of Merkel. Britain doesn't even understand what brexit is yet. The faster this is pushed through, the better it is for Europe. Start the clock, just say no to everything, and watch the confused look... Tick tock...

jimenato Aug 20th 2016 8:10 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12030966)
Well at least Merkel one thing right.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/163804...st-take-place/


"NO GOING BACK Angela Merkel says Brexit is ‘irrevocable’ and negotiations for Britain to leave EU must take place
The German Chancellor has insisted there is no way to reverse the UK's historic vote this summer"

What the ****'s it got to do with her?

We have held a non-binding referendum. It's up to us what we do with it.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 20th 2016 11:03 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12031011)
What the ****'s it got to do with her?

We have held a non-binding referendum. It's up to us what we do with it.


The fact that she's previously been pulling the strings regarding almost every major Eu decision, might have something to do with it.

However now the chips are down and the decision made, her first priority is to protect Germany's massive trading interest by ensuring a smooth transition.

This is not going down at all well with Junkers whose shattered pride has left him crying out for revenge against the UK at whatever cost.

There can only be one winner there and Junkers days are clearly numbered.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 20th 2016 11:13 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12030990)
That's very wise of Merkel. Britain doesn't even understand what brexit is yet. The faster this is pushed through, the better it is for Europe. Start the clock, just say no to everything, and watch the confused look... Tick tock...


The main problem is that the vast majority of those against Brexit either don't have the faintest clue what the EU is all about or simply dare not even mention it.

“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening.
This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”
Jean Monnet

Exactly the same aim today as it was back then.

Little more than fraud and deception on a mega scale. :cool:

Gordon Barlow Aug 20th 2016 11:36 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12031092)
The main problem is that the vast majority of those against Brexit either don't have the faintest clue what the EU is all about or simply dare not even mention it.
“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening.
This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”
Jean Monnet
Exactly the same aim today as it was back then.
Little more than fraud and deception on a mega scale.

Exactly. All that Britain's EU membership means is that it has swapped its national sovereignty for the (eventual) status of a province in a super-nation, just as Hawaii did when it joined the USA. It would have less self-government than Puerto Rico has within the US. Why? Why?

amideislas Aug 21st 2016 6:29 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12031092)
The main problem is that the vast majority of those against Brexit either don't have the faintest clue what the EU is all about or simply dare not even mention it.

“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening.
This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”
Jean Monnet

Exactly the same aim today as it was back then.

Little more than fraud and deception on a mega scale. :cool:

Oh, Dick, you just did it again! It's common knowledge that Jean Monnet never said any such thing. Those are the words of an ultra conservative author, who wrote that in the late 1990s.

Your Daily Express style claims of EU armageddon are troubling.

Far scarier than anything having to do with the EU, is the influence the sensationalist tabloids have over voters. Democracy bent over and ravaged by political rapists.

Red Eric Aug 21st 2016 6:37 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12031011)

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12030966)
Well at least Merkel one thing right.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/163804...st-take-place/


"NO GOING BACK Angela Merkel says Brexit is ‘irrevocable’ and negotiations for Britain to leave EU must take place
The German Chancellor has insisted there is no way to reverse the UK's historic vote this summer"

What the ****'s it got to do with her?

We have held a non-binding referendum. It's up to us what we do with it.

It's the EU being dicktatorial again. Probably best to ignore her and refuse to leave.

TGA Aug 21st 2016 7:55 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
priceless
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqVe3LXWEAUloXq.jpg:large

amideislas Aug 21st 2016 8:09 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
"The Soviet Union is the recipe we used for the EU, but we mixed in a little North Korea for some extra zing"
- Napoleon Bonaparte

DaveLovesDee Aug 21st 2016 8:17 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12031086)
The fact that she's previously been pulling the strings regarding almost every major Eu decision, might have something to do with it.

Bullshit!

In the Council of Ministers, each of the 28 member states has an equal say in every decision.


Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12031092)
The main problem is that the vast majority of those against Brexit either don't have the faintest clue what the EU is all about or simply dare not even mention it.

“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening.
This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”
Jean Monnet

Exactly the same aim today as it was back then.

Little more than fraud and deception on a mega scale. :cool:


Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12025502)
Oh dick. You keep saying that, but it's well known that Jean Monnet never said any such thing.

In fact, these weren’t Monnet’s words at all – but those of the (far right) Conservative politician and author, Adrian Hilton, in The Principality and Power of Europe, published in 1997.

And you really should give up the whole "disastrous EU dictatorship" rhetoric. Seriously, it reflects more on your own character than the EU. It really doesn't help you at all. It just makes you look silly.


Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12031228)
Oh, Dick, you just did it again! It's common knowledge that Jean Monnet never said any such thing. Those are the words of an ultra conservative author, who wrote that in the late 1990s.

Your Daily Express style claims of EU armageddon are troubling.

Far scarier than anything having to do with the EU, is the influence the sensationalist tabloids have over voters. Democracy bent over and ravaged by political rapists.


Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12031268)

Do you have a source for the quote, as there's no mention of it on Google.

Or is this an attempt at satire?

Assanah Aug 21st 2016 9:04 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12031086)
The fact that she's previously been pulling the strings regarding almost every major Eu decision, might have something to do with it.

However now the chips are down and the decision made, her first priority is to protect Germany's massive trading interest by ensuring a smooth transition.

This is not going down at all well with Junkers whose shattered pride has left him crying out for revenge against the UK at whatever cost.

There can only be one winner there and Junkers days are clearly numbered.

If Germany has massive trading interests what do you call the British interest: humongous, gargantuan?


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