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Old Mar 10th 2019, 6:28 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post



Infamous Brexit promises haunt politicians as Britain faces crunch week


The hubris and fantastical claims sold by many Brexit-supporting politicians -- and indeed some remainers -- are now facing their moment of truth as the deadline for the UK's withdrawal from the EU looms large.

Sobering isn't it. The last line of the report says it all 'If Brexit does finally happen...It will look nothing like the one the people voted for'

In other words the people will indeed ,as we have said all along...been duped and fooled...big time
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post



Infamous Brexit promises haunt politicians as Britain faces crunch week


The hubris and fantastical claims sold by many Brexit-supporting politicians -- and indeed some remainers -- are now facing their moment of truth as the deadline for the UK's withdrawal from the EU looms large.
Good piece, it sums up the shambolic journey to the gloomy lowlands very well.

I hope the ultra-charlatan May is not considering delaying/pulling vote #2 and #3. Last week it sounded like definite process, today it's being reported in porential terms.
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by EMR View Post
The real world where people in The UK are getting IDP from their local post office..
The post office has already seen an almost 20% rise in applications in the last quarter of 2018 and is increasing the number of branches where they can be purchased in response to demand.

I would add not one of those who replied on this subject actually lives in the UK ..
Which is absolutely essential, of course, for knowing exactly what preparations are being made in each of the other 27 EU member states




I could post you a link to the Portuguese Minister for Foreign Affairs speaking in English about arrangements for mutual recognition of driving licences but you'd probably argue with him.
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 7:25 am
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You're right, they do in the 'real world', often when buying a house from a dodgy salesman. That's why most pay for a survey, and then go for a second viewing armed with the survey results.

Nobody would suggest a second viewing to be a 'betrayal' of the first, especially after subsidence, dry rot and a leaking roof become evident. Common sense really.

Governments don't hold referendums to buy houses.
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by GeniB View Post
Are you insane Paulry.?.. I LIVE in the EU.. No one in their right mind ,with any REAL knowledge of how it works ,would want to leave it.
So cool, you lost but you think you won, what could be better than that?
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post


Infamous Brexit promises haunt politicians as Britain faces crunch week



The hubris and fantastical claims sold by many Brexit-supporting politicians -- and indeed some remainers -- are now facing their moment of truth as the deadline for the UK's withdrawal from the EU looms large.
Ah, the Clinton News Network...

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Old Mar 10th 2019, 9:08 am
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Which is absolutely essential, of course, for knowing exactly what preparations are being made in each of the other 27 EU member states




I could post you a link to the Portuguese Minister for Foreign Affairs speaking in English about arrangements for mutual recognition of driving licences but you'd probably argue with him.
Eric all that is available in the UK is the information published by the government regarding driving in the EU after Brexit..
I am not arguing with anyone just stating the fact....

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Eric all that is available in the UK is the information published by the government regarding driving in the EU after Brexit..
I am not arguing with anyone just stating the fact....
Ah! ... Well, for once we seem to agree EMR. I call it News Management, but it amounts to the same thing; - keeping people off-balance so they don't ask awkward questions & accept being blinkered.
Now, without getting off your point, there's apparently an interesting item in The Times to-day saying, in effect, that May has a final PM's option come Tuesday's vote; - to pull the announced & promised other two other options if her deal is rejected....
If this is democracy, imo, it's certainly very well disguised.
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 9:49 am
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Ah! ... Well, for once we seem to agree EMR. I call it News Management, but it amounts to the same thing; - keeping people off-balance so they don't ask awkward questions & accept being blinkered.
Now, without getting off your point, there's apparently an interesting item in The Times to-day saying, in effect, that May has a final PM's option come Tuesday's vote; - to pull the announced & promised other two other options if her deal is rejected....
If this is democracy, imo, it's certainly very well disguised.
I think it all depends with how many votes she loses, and she will lose.
If it's lower than 50 one seems to think she might give her deal another go ...
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I think it all depends with how many votes she loses, and she will lose.
If it's lower than 50 one seems to think she might give her deal another go ...
. .. And her type of hypocritical conduct is what the Secessionists always accused the EU of doing. Pots & kettles don't even come near it.
Just how many times can they be asked to vote, until they vote the May-way?

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Old Mar 10th 2019, 10:06 am
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Eric all that is available in the UK is the information published by the government regarding driving in the EU after Brexit..
I am not arguing with anyone just stating the fact....
Your talents are wasted on here - you should really be on the telly.
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. .. And her type of hypocritical conduct is what the Secessionists always accused the EU of doing. Pots & kettles don't even come near it.
Just how many times can they be asked to vote, until they vote the May-way?
Puts a slightly different spin on the term 'voter fatigue'.
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Ah, the Clinton News Network...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RT5YwvcbNo
I don't think the article mentioned denial, but thanks for illustrating that inadvertent omission.
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Old Mar 10th 2019, 10:13 am
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I don't think the article mentioned denial, but thanks for illustrating that inadvertent omission.
I doubt that he even read the article, just saw "CNN" and went straight into baiting mode.
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OK, well here's another one to not read and then rubbish. Also from outside the bubble:

The more we learn about Brexit, the more crooked it looks

British industry might suffer after Brexit, and British power will be reduced. But the gray zone — where politics meets money, where foreign money can become domestic, where assets can be hidden and connections concealed — will survive. Perhaps that was the point all along.
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