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Old Aug 21st 2015, 7:29 pm
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Labour leadership: Andy Burnham calls for urgent meeting over concerns that 'large scale' Tory infiltration could lead to legal challenge

Latest is that they claim to be weeding out the Tory votes.
What rubbish, a futile and virtually impossible task.

Meanwhile the Corbyn camp claims that they have started binning his votes as well.

Now we find out that Corbyn is not only a terrorist sympathiser but also a supporter having been exposed for his blatant bare faced lies and treachery .

Overall a complete shambles, which is quite likely to result in the party splitting in two yet again, for what good that will do them.
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Old Aug 22nd 2015, 2:55 am
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They just refuse to believe that many real labour people who've been pushed away over the last decade or so might see in Corbyn a reason to return to the fold. The same people who prefer to believe that the SNP result in Scotland was down to nationalism rather than social justice and anti-austerity policies.
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He should be more careful about the company he keeps.





Labour Leadership hopeful Jeremy Corbyn has today denied links to well-known scoundrel and bad egg Dick Dastardly, after photographs emerged of the two sharing a car.

Dastardly, described as a double-dealing do-badder, is on record as being willing to nab, jab, stab and grab to achieve his objectives, and is widely regarded as being a pariah in political circles for his extremist views.
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Corbyn's biggest problem might well be that very few of the Parliamentary party seem as though they will work with him
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The Illuminati do not like him.
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Old Aug 22nd 2015, 12:38 pm
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Corbyn's biggest problem might well be that very few of the Parliamentary party seem as though they will work with him
I can't understand why these people are in the labour party in the first place. And they'll blame Corbyn for destroying party unity. Democracy is in a sorry state within the UK labour party.
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In my early years, I worked within Labour inner circles (Wilson-Callaghan period).

I can assure you, Labour was equally chaotic and clueless even then. It never had majority support, and although no party had a majority in the 1974 elections, the Tories won the popular vote, but was unable to form a coalition, so Heath resigned and handed it over to a minority Labour government. The following 5 years were disastrous for Britain, and is what led to Maggie's victory in 1979.

In fact, my (often dismaying) experiences within the party forged my awakening to the self-serving, self-defeating ironies of socialist politics, and my decision to take a one way ticket out of politics forever. No regrets about that.
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Old Aug 22nd 2015, 1:32 pm
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Compared to Corbyn, I reckon my namesake is an angel.
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I can't understand why these people are in the labour party in the first place. And they'll blame Corbyn for destroying party unity. Democracy is in a sorry state within the UK labour party.
Which people ?

Do you actually prefer treacherous Corbyn to the more moderate level headed members ?
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Overall a complete shambles, which is quite likely to result in the party splitting in two yet again, for what good that will do them.
Yep, Labour history is repeating itself; elect an ageing hardline political rebel in a reaction to the failure of the right wing element. Old, stubborn, set in his ways, bit of a shabby dresser, one unlikely to ever bring the two sides of his party together.

You can even imagine another 'Gang-of-4' stylee, a rump of disaffected Blairites going it alone should Corbyn be elected.

2020 would be just as catastrophic a result for Labour as it was in 1983.
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Which people ?

Do you actually prefer treacherous Corbyn to the more moderate level headed members ?
I don't see the point of a labour party led by those "moderate level headed members" because I don't believe it's different enough to the Tories to matter.

Yes, I prefer Corbyn but I don't think he's the one who has betrayed labour values.
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I don't see the point of a labour party led by those "moderate level headed members" because I don't believe it's different enough to the Tories to matter.

Yes, I prefer Corbyn but I don't think he's the one who has betrayed labour values.
I don't think anyone really knows what Labours values are, but judging by recent Corbyn revelations he'd be the very first to betray the countries values.
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In my lifetime I've been a Trades Union Chairman and I've owned my own businesses. I've voted both Tory and Labour, according to what policies I agreed with at the time.

Having watched this debacle over the last months I have already come to accept that we now have a Conservative Government that will be in power for many many years to come, with Cameron and then probably Osbourne as PM.

The Labour Party have pressed the self destruct button. If Corbyn gets in, the party will fall apart even more than it already has been with splits appearing all over. I acn't even see how the four candidates will ever be able to work together. Can anybody really see Jeremy Corbyn as a Prime Minister of of the UK. Clearly not. He can put the Labour party ideals as he sees them forward in the future, but he will do so from the opposition benches, never as a PM!
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Originally Posted by rachelk View Post
They just refuse to believe that many real labour people who've been pushed away over the last decade or so might see in Corbyn a reason to return to the fold. The same people who prefer to believe that the SNP result in Scotland was down to nationalism rather than social justice and anti-austerity policies.
Don't think so.
Labour is fueled by hypocrisy - more so than any other political Party (although the SNP come pretty close). Having ditched Blairism, they are now doing their best to stoke up a new class war. Trying to convince people how badly off they are. Rhetoric that's really aimed at those on (hopefully) diminishing benefits, albeit potential voting fodder.

Gone are the days when Labours main purpose was to represent the true working class. It's public face still says that it supports 'hard working families', although in reality it's more focused on pulling in votes from the benefits brigade and mobilising teenagers with no aspiration. Not forgetting its loyal band of phoney socialists - the so called intellectual elite aka Guardian readers.

At least Corbyn is one of the few conviction politicians around. Of course he is totally misguided and in living in cloud cuckoo land. But I've paid my 'price of a pint' to vote for him.

Still a bit of a worry nonetheless. Corbyn the 'pacifist' could well be giving a platform to many of his lowlife followers who are hell bent on causing civil unrest.

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Originally Posted by lutonlad View Post
At least Corbyn is one of the few conviction politicians around. Of course he is totally misguided and in living in cloud cuckoo land. But I've paid my 'price of a pint' to vote for him.
Still a bit of a worry nonetheless. Corbyn the 'pacifist' could well be giving a platform to many of his lowlife followers who are hell bent on causing civil unrest.
But do you not agree that Labour will never be a voteable party whilst he is charge?
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