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It's not just about guns, it's about the person holding the weapon

Old Apr 18th 2013, 1:16 am
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And Life is a terminal disease....
Yup, kind of my point.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 2:12 am
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And Life is a terminal disease....


Unfortunately, the disease is far too prolonged for some.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 2:46 am
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Piers currently throwing a wobbly.

Who would have thought we would have Harry Reid to thank for it.
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Piers currently throwing a wobbly.

Who would have thought we would have Harry Reid to thank for it.
The irony of Harry Reid being a vote against is just too delicious! .... Makes attacks on the GOP rather hard to justify.

It would have been much funnier still, though if the GOP had volunteered five votes of support leaving Harry Reid as one of 41 votes against.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
The irony of Harry Reid being a vote against is just too delicious! .... Makes attacks on the GOP rather hard to justify.
You realize why Reid voted no, right
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
You realize why Reid voted no, right
I heard it was "procedural", but I haven't bothered to investigate further.

Edit: Now I see. It apparently gives him the right to reopen the question and call another vote later on the same amendment.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
I heard it was "procedural", but I haven't bothered to investigate further.
Correct. it allows him to call a revote in the future. So there was nothing "ironic" about his vote.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 6:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
Correct. it allows him to call a revote in the future. So there was nothing "ironic" about his vote.
Maybe Pulaski has gone native, and it's American irony.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
You realize why Reid voted no, right
No wonder Congress isn't trusted by a large segment of the population. A politician votes for something he manifestly doesn't believe in so he has the right to reopen the debate and engineer another vote that would not otherwise be allowed/ possible. Such shenanigans are deplorable, no matter which side or whoever engages in them!
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
No wonder Congress isn't trusted by a large segment of the population. A politician votes for something he manifestly doesn't believe in so he has the right to reopen the debate and engineer another vote that would not otherwise be allowed/ possible. Such shenanigans are deplorable, no matter which side or whoever engages in them!
I would have thought what's far more deplorable is that a majority can vote in favour of something - like this - but because of the Senate's procedural rules the vote fails.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
You realize why Reid voted no, right
Everybody who voted had their reasons why they voted a particular way, the records show Reid vote was Nay.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
I would have thought what's far more deplorable is that a majority can vote in favour of something - like this - but because of the Senate's procedural rules the vote fails.
Ironically (if nobody minds me using that word, and hopefully in the right context this time ), the percentage majority of Senators who voted in favour of the background checks amendment is considerably smaller than the percentage majority of the population (several opinion polls have reported about 90%) supporting the background checks amendment.
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Amusingly (hope that is OK as well) the majority disapprove of Obama's handling of the Gun Control issue.
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Old Apr 18th 2013, 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
Amusingly (hope that is OK as well) the majority disapprove of Obama's handling of the Gun Control issue.
Probably, like Obamacare, many disagree with what he's done, and as many think he hasn't done enough, making the "disapproval rating" a hopelessly confused composite number.
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The only 90% plus number I would agree with is if it is the number of people who do not know what is actually proposed.
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