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Old Feb 8th 2020, 3:30 pm
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Reading that Angela Leadsom wants more women in the cabinet makes me wonder if equality is something she really wants or is simply fighting her corner for women i.e. gender! Shouldn't it be 'the best for the job'? She maybe doesn't want real equality as that would mean women being excluded because they are unsuitable for the job, i. e. the military, Police or Fire Service for example where physical attributes are more important. Her idea of equality ie simply an equal number of women and men in a particular organisation, i.e. gender equality regardless of quality or suitability for the job.

There are positions where women are far more suitable than men but this is never an issue but It is always an issue where there are more men than women! I doubt she wants equality based on suitability rather than equality based on gender and that is, in my view, totally unacceptable.
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Originally Posted by KJMW View Post
She maybe doesn't want real equality as that would mean women being excluded because they are unsuitable for the job, i. e. the military, Police or Fire Service for example where physical attributes are more important.

Don't know about where you live, but women in Australia serve in the military (including in combat), as police officers and as firefighters, both career and volunteer.
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Do they have cleaning, laundry, ironing, cooking and sex slave positions in the cabinet?
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Do they have cleaning, laundry, ironing, cooking and sex slave positions in the cabinet?
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse View Post

Don't know about where you live, but women in Australia serve in the military (including in combat), as police officers and as firefighters, both career and volunteer.
As they do in the UK,
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A bit ironic considering that Andrea Leadsom might actually have been the current PM, if she hadn't blurted out that men shouldn't be professional child-carers because they might be paedophiles and that she was better qualified than Theresa May to be PM because she was a mother.
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Don't know about where you live, but women in Australia serve in the military (including in combat), as police officers and as firefighters, both career and volunteer.
They do in Europe but the point is do they do it as well?
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As they do in the UK,
Are they as good or efficient?
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Originally Posted by KJMW View Post
They do in Europe but the point is do they do it as well?
You could give the Australian Minister for Defence a call and ask her I guess.
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Do they have cleaning, laundry, ironing, cooking and sex slave positions in the cabinet?

Remember reading in the memoirs of Barbara Castle* (my favourite politician)----that it was she who got women's toilets put in the 'Commons'----and Shirley Williams and Margaret Thatcher shared an ironing board !!! Things have moved on since then!!

*The first woman to 'shout' in the EU Parliament!
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Originally Posted by KJMW View Post
Are they as good or efficient?
Almost certainly, more so.
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse View Post
Don't know about where you live, but women in Australia serve in the military (including in combat), as police officers and as firefighters, both career and volunteer.
I daren't mention the name of the country with the most women airline pilots!
Years ago on a domestic flight stopover two women in uniform stepped out of the cockpit----I said to OH-- "look we have an all women crew". "Must be the cleaners"--he said. Daughters and self have never let him forget it!!
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Remember reading in the memoirs of Barbara Castle* (my favourite politician)----that it was she who got women's toilets put in the 'Commons'----and Shirley Williams and Margaret Thatcher shared an ironing board !!! Things have moved on since then!!

*The first woman to 'shout' in the EU Parliament!
At least we can agree on something, bipat!
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Remember reading in the memoirs of Barbara Castle* (my favourite politician)----that it was she who got women's toilets put in the 'Commons'----and Shirley Williams and Margaret Thatcher shared an ironing board !!! Things have moved on since then!!

*The first woman to 'shout' in the EU Parliament!
Lady MPs each get their own ironing board now?
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Originally Posted by KJMW View Post
She maybe doesn't want real equality as that would mean women being excluded because they are unsuitable for the job, i. e. the military, Police or Fire Service for example where physical attributes are more important.
It does make one wonder what you think those areas of jobs involve. I think I know what you are trying to say, but that would mean you have such a myopic narrow definition of those areas of jobs.
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