Derek Chauvin trial
#62

Jesus fracking Christ.
#64

resisted has many synonyms, and other words describing a reluctance to do something, I assume the defense will be using resisted.,
#66

I have been watching YouTube lately and a lot of American police camera action! And maybe understand the way the police behave a little more, I am just glad i have nothing to do with law enforcement!!!
#67

They (both the police and the public) do seem to enjoy the wild west mentality.
#68

The paramedics testified today.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/us/ge...y-4/index.html
Floyd was asystole when paramedics began working on him, and his status never changed.
According to this, less than 2% of people in asystole are revived.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/us/ge...y-4/index.html
Floyd was asystole when paramedics began working on him, and his status never changed.
According to this, less than 2% of people in asystole are revived.
#69

The paramedics testified today.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/us/ge...y-4/index.html
Floyd was asystole when paramedics began working on him, and his status never changed.
According to this, less than 2% of people in asystole are revived.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/us/ge...y-4/index.html
Floyd was asystole when paramedics began working on him, and his status never changed.
According to this, less than 2% of people in asystole are revived.
One thing I didn't understand on the dashcam footage is why when they were forcing him in the squad car, they did not have the opposite side door closed/locked (the one 'escaped from). He was at one stage in the car.
#70

"Kneeling on the neck of someone who is handcuffed and in the prone position is "top-tier, deadly" force and should not be used, the head of the Minneapolis Police Department's homicide division testified Friday at Derek Chauvin's murder trial."
Pleoger testified Thursday that officers are trained to roll people on their side to help with their breathing after they have been restrained in the prone position. He said the officers could have ended their restraint of Floyd after he stopped resisting.https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chauvi...mony-1.5974400
#71

This isn't going to help Chauvin, fellow officers testimony the last couple of days might get him convicted at this rate.
"Kneeling on the neck of someone who is handcuffed and in the prone position is "top-tier, deadly" force and should not be used, the head of the Minneapolis Police Department's homicide division testified Friday at Derek Chauvin's murder trial."
Pleoger testified Thursday that officers are trained to roll people on their side to help with their breathing after they have been restrained in the prone position. He said the officers could have ended their restraint of Floyd after he stopped resisting.https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chauvi...mony-1.5974400
"Kneeling on the neck of someone who is handcuffed and in the prone position is "top-tier, deadly" force and should not be used, the head of the Minneapolis Police Department's homicide division testified Friday at Derek Chauvin's murder trial."
Pleoger testified Thursday that officers are trained to roll people on their side to help with their breathing after they have been restrained in the prone position. He said the officers could have ended their restraint of Floyd after he stopped resisting.https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chauvi...mony-1.5974400
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Floyd's past is irrelevant. All that matters is what happened that day. Floyd's behavior, both before the police were called and later when they were trying to arrest him, is relevant to what may have motivated the police to act in a certain way. If Floyd happened to die in the process of resisting arrest (due to heart disease or drug overdose) and police were following best practices, then we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation. For example, when police tase a suspect and that causes the suspect have a heart attack, the police are not accused of murder. That's because the taser is an accepted use of force. We can debate whether tasers should be used but I can't see that it's fair to give a cop a taser and then be shocked when he uses it. The issue is not that Floyd might have done something wrong, we know Floyd did lots of stuff wrong OBVIOUSLY that's why he was most likely headed to prison. The question in front of the jury is did Chauvin do something wrong? Was the method that Chauvin used illegal? If Chauvin did something wrong, and I believe he did, then the same standard should apply to him ... break the law and you go to jail.
Just to clarify my perspective on this: I believe Chauvin should be convicted of a crime. We can't live in a country where police kneel on people's necks for ten minutes. I also think it's going to be fairly difficult to convict Chauvin.