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CORONAVIRUS PART II

Old Jun 5th 2020, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
We just had our first death in my province. We only had 120 cases, every one of them recovered. More than two weeks with no new cases, then a case and then another two weeks with none again.

Then the good doctor decides to travel to a badly affected province, fails to self isolate when he gets back, goes to work as usual, sees 150 or so patients and work colleagues and the super spreader is responsible for 15 cases, the majority of whom are residents and staff of one care home that included either patients or staff the doc was a contact of. That bit's secret.

And one of them died.
Think he will be charged with anything?
Criminal negligence
  • 219 (1) Every one is criminally negligent who
    • (a) in doing anything, or
    • (b) in omitting to do anything that it is his duty to do,
    shows wanton or reckless disregard for the lives or safety of other persons.
    For the purposes of this section, duty means a duty imposed by law.

    It was his duty to self isolate when returning from Quebec which he
    didn't. Now the argument is did he cause death or bodily harm by criminal negligence?
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Old Jun 5th 2020, 1:31 pm
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Think he will be charged with anything?
Currently suspended and RCMP investigating.
Apparently they always get their man.
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian View Post
Think he will be charged with anything?
Criminal negligence
  • 219 (1) Every one is criminally negligent who
    • (a) in doing anything, or
    • (b) in omitting to do anything that it is his duty to do,
    shows wanton or reckless disregard for the lives or safety of other persons.
    For the purposes of this section, duty means a duty imposed by law.

    It was his duty to self isolate when returning from Quebec which he
    didn't. Now the argument is did he cause death or bodily harm by criminal negligence?
That's going to be a tough one. Things are going to get very difficult if we start criminalizing the transmission of a virus. Some cases might seem clear, but others will most definitely not, (let's say people at the beach, for example) and once you've convicted all these people what are you going to do with them?
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Stats Canada released updated data on COVID's affect on the labor market.

Unemployment up to 13.7% in May, the highest on record since comparable data became available in 1976.

Unemployment in February was 5.6%.

In May, unemployment grew more slowly (+201,000; +8.3%) than in the previous two months

Canadians who wanted to work but did not look for a job remained high in May, falling from 1.5 million in April to 1.4 million.

Including the group who wanted to work but were not looking for wor
k would result in an adjusted unemployment rate of 19.6%.

Quebec accounts for nearly 80% of overall employment gains in May

Ontario was the only province where employment continued to fall in May.

Employment in British Columbia increased by 43,000 in May and the unemployment rate rose 1.9 percentage points to 13.4%, as more people looked for work.

Just some of the highlights, there is way too much data to put in one post.


https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...-eng.htm?HPA=1







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Map of how the virus affected different parts of BC.



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Only 1 new case, 1 additional death, 193 active cases, 5 in ICU total of 21 in hospital. Seems for the most part our daily cases announced are shrinking, and the hospitalizations and ICU admissions shrinking little by little. We are almost 3 weeks into our phase 2 reopening so far so good there.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2020HLTH0031-001027
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The infamous R rate has gone over 1 again in parts of northwest England.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
The infamous R rate has gone over 1 again in parts of northwest England.
.... and the South West, which has seen relatively little inection so far.

The latest regional R analysis by Public Health England (Image: Public Health England and Cambridge University)
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Dr. Bonnie Henry made the New York Times. (British Columbia Provincial Health Officer.)

Dr. Bonnie Henry kept the disease in check in British Columbia without harsh enforcement methods. Now, she is leading the way out of lockdown.

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I cannot read that J.
What methods / strategy did she use?
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“They took decisive action, did it early without hesitation and communicated effectively,” Mr. Furness added. “People listened to her.”

That quote explains part of it as does this one:
“If you tell people what they need to do and why, and give them the means to do it, most people will do what you need,” she said."

The provincial politicians also stepped back and let her do her job without interfering, and the message has always been very consistent. Where some places one official says this, another says that and people have no idea who to listen to. BC went the route of politicians are not doctors or experts in pandemics, we have a provincial health officer who is, we will stand back and let her do her job.

And the way she speaks seems to get people to listen.


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.... and the South West, which has seen relatively little inection so far.

The latest regional R analysis by Public Health England (Image: Public Health England and Cambridge University)
I am not surprised by the increase in R rate in the SW. Since the relaxation in lockdown coastal towns in the SW have been rammed, no social spacing on beaches, people urinating and defaecating in public, ignoring car parking restrictions and leaving cars everywhere they damn well like, leaving literally tonnes and tonnes of rubbish in their wake. We need travel bans in England like they have in Wales and Scotland.

Last week we had tourists from northern England down on the south coast, you are not telling me they came down for the day, they are staying overnight somewhere. Seriously just frigging go to Scarborough if you want the beach.

And while I am on it, why the bloody hell were people queuing for 3 hours to get into IKEA on the first day it opened. If there is a massive queue, go bloody home and wait a few weeks. Your shopping in IkEA is not critical.

What is wrong with people. Serious question? Are similar levels of stupidity being shown in the country where you live?
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I am not surprised by the increase in R rate in the SW. Since the relaxation in lockdown coastal towns in the SW have been rammed, no social spacing on beaches, people urinating and defaecating in public, ignoring car parking restrictions and leaving cars everywhere they damn well like, leaving literally tonnes and tonnes of rubbish in their wake. We need travel bans in England like they have in Wales and Scotland.

Last week we had tourists from northern England down on the south coast, you are not telling me they came down for the day, they are staying overnight somewhere. Seriously just frigging go to Scarborough if you want the beach.

And while I am on it, why the bloody hell were people queuing for 3 hours to get into IKEA on the first day it opened. If there is a massive queue, go bloody home and wait a few weeks. Your shopping in IkEA is not critical.

What is wrong with people. Serious question? Are similar levels of stupidity being shown in the country where you live?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by pommybird View Post
I am not surprised by the increase in R rate in the SW. Since the relaxation in lockdown coastal towns in the SW have been rammed, no social spacing on beaches, people urinating and defaecating in public, ignoring car parking restrictions and leaving cars everywhere they damn well like, leaving literally tonnes and tonnes of rubbish in their wake. We need travel bans in England like they have in Wales and Scotland.

Last week we had tourists from northern England down on the south coast, you are not telling me they came down for the day, they are staying overnight somewhere. Seriously just frigging go to Scarborough if you want the beach.

And while I am on it, why the bloody hell were people queuing for 3 hours to get into IKEA on the first day it opened. If there is a massive queue, go bloody home and wait a few weeks. Your shopping in IkEA is not critical.

What is wrong with people. Serious question? Are similar levels of stupidity being shown in the country where you live?
The problem is that people are NOT listening to the tourist areas, they have been saying for a long time that car parks and toilet facilities will NOT be open, and currently most have no intention of opeining them either. Therefore people feel it's OK to visit and park their car just where they want to, a number of areas will be getting a boost in income from the parking fines thst have been imposed. One small tourist area ticketed 70 cars on one street alone.
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Yes.
I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse!
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