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Old Mar 17th 2020, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by pommybird View Post
They weren't previously wrong.....we all knew these measures were coming, it was a case of timing and when to action according to the growth in numbers, epidemiology and the circumstances that are individual to the UK.
I'm not the one playing politics here pommybird, others are;- literally playing with this situation and with it, ordinary peoples' lives.
There are many, many practical steps that can and should be taken today that, imo, would do a lot to smother and control this infection.
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
WRT the UK government's statement:

They have issued no instructions - they have issued advice. They are leaving it up to the individual to act or not upon that advice and it is being largely ignored.

People have been advised not to go to pubs, clubs and theatres but they (pubs at least) are still open. If they are open they will be used - what is the point of them being open if not to serve customers?

It is not being made clear what we are supposed to do. It's time for clear, strong leadership and clear instructions on what can and cannot happen.

The perception is that the government is not serious about this. If it were serious it would issue instructions and enforce them.

The government is displaying a woeful lack of leadership, responsibility and, basically, balls.
Theatres, restaurants, pubs etc etc - the government has advised people not to visit these places but have stopped short of instructing the venues to close, which means they can't claim on their insurance. Is the government looking after insurance companies more than other businesses? It just seems strange.
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by macliam View Post
Hot water makes the process quicker and more certain...... the virus is actually quite a weak structure and can be torn apart by washing. I haven't read into everything, but there are a few factors to consider. Soap is effective against COVID-19 because it breaks down the fatty layer covering the virus and allows the virus itself to be attacked.... strong alcohol does it too and various other detergents may work, but you'd need to check. Anything "stronger" than soap, you need to consider the effect on your skin.... it is the total coverage and the complete cleansing that are important - you MUST ensure your entire hand sufrface is cleansed (easier in a bowl of water), hence the 20 seconds rule. This is also why personal hand gels etc. are less effective as they don't necessarily wet every part of the hands and people tend not to use them for long enough...... any virus left is too much virus!!

I read hot or cold water for washing...it doesn’t matter. What is important is thorough hand washing, including wrists. When using sanitizer hands should be rubbed until dry.
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:07 pm
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Well in the UK the sugestions are suggestions, in France the suggestions are law and we get fined if we don't comply.

Its a hard handed approach but I think it is necessary from what I have seen of the inablilty of people to take seriously the dangeroisness of the Pandemic.
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:12 pm
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I read hot or cold water for washing...it doesn’t matter. What is important is thorough hand washing, including wrists. When using sanitizer hands should be rubbed until dry.
Yes. Definitely. Wrists are important too!
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:22 pm
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Yes. Definitely. Wrists are important too!
when we come indoors, we take our shoes off at the door and wash our hands before we touch anything. Then we open the cupboard door, take our coats etc off and put them away. Then we wash hands and wrists again. Still cold here...difficult to wash wrists wearing coats with elasticated wrists.
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:26 pm
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I’ve notice on TV that authorities are spraying roads, footpaths etc. If the virus falls to the ground after sneezing/coughing, does that mean we can collect it on our shoes, dogs paws etc?
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 1:38 pm
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when we come indoors, we take our shoes off at the door and wash our hands before we touch anything. Then we open the cupboard door, take our coats etc off and put them away. Then we wash hands and wrists again. Still cold here...difficult to wash wrists wearing coats with elasticated wrists.
Good tactics. We're doing similar, generally washing hands and then doing the task (putting shopping away yesterday) then typically washing again. I've got sanitizer dotted throughout the house but prefer a solid hand and wrist wash.

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Good tactics. We're doing similar, generally washing hands and then doing the task (putting shopping away yesterday) then typically washing again. I've got sanitizer dotted throughout the house but prefer a solid hand and wrist wash.
everything brought into the house is either wiped down with a bleach/water solution or put in the garage for later use. Then hands washed again.

I am not going to the shops...ordering everything online.
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everything brought into the house is either wiped down with a bleach/water solution or put in the garage for later use. Then hands washed again.

I am not going to the shops...ordering everything online.
I can't get delivery slots for about a week online, but it's something we've discussed for next week. Had a good walk this morning and went to a local bakery for some brekkie items. Dead. They were grateful for customers it seemed.
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I can't get delivery slots for about a week online, but it's something we've discussed for next week. Had a good walk this morning and went to a local bakery for some brekkie items. Dead. They were grateful for customers it seemed.
it’s a shame because many small shops and businesses will probably go under. Meanwhile supermarkets, Costco, Amazon etc will flourish.
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Old Mar 17th 2020, 2:14 pm
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I can't get delivery slots for about a week online, but it's something we've discussed for next week. Had a good walk this morning and went to a local bakery for some brekkie items. Dead. They were grateful for customers it seemed.
Around here, it seems their distribution software leaves much to be desired... I only have 10 neighbouring properties and a van from the same supermarket has been here 3 times today (and it's only 13:15) - it might even be the same van if the deliveries aren't sorted by location. Efficiency!
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it’s a shame because many small shops and businesses will probably go under. Meanwhile supermarkets, Costco, Amazon etc will flourish.
Especially if the UK government continues to suggest rather than 'ban' things.

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Around here, it seems their distribution software leaves much to be desired... I only have 10 neighbouring properties and a van from the same supermarket has been here 3 times today (and it's only 13:15) - it might even be the same van if the deliveries aren't sorted by location. Efficiency!
There must be an algorithm for that.....force people to only book times the van is nearby etc. Or maybe offer a discount (my dry cleaner offers a discount if you book slots when they know they'll be nearby).
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There must be an algorithm for that.....force people to only book times the van is nearby etc. Or maybe offer a discount (my dry cleaner offers a discount if you book slots when they know they'll be nearby).
You would have thought so.... but either there isn't, or it allows overrides too easily, or it doesn't actually link locations in real-time, or.....

Maybe the drivers just like putting the miles in!
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There must be an algorithm for that.....force people to only book times the van is nearby etc. Or maybe offer a discount (my dry cleaner offers a discount if you book slots when they know they'll be nearby).
Or just send the van out twice a day, and advertise "Order before 10:30 for delivery before noon, order before 15:30 for delivery before 17:00" and if business warrants it add an evening run.
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