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Old Oct 16th 2019, 11:03 pm
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What's the point in carping on about climate change or not when the elephant in the room is population growth, rampant consumerism, continuing single use plastics, our oceans awash with these plastics, deforestation, land degradation, etc, etc....? We don't need to argue about what the science has to say or not on those things. Why is it the focus is on claimed "climate change" while the kinds of things I've mentioned above are pretty much being ignored?
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Old Oct 16th 2019, 11:15 pm
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It's not a fact as you know. (But I agree with most of your post).

Goops Your right.. my slip... Its the other way around the sun is moving closer to the earth.. Still... we've got five billion years before we explode
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
What's the point in carping on about climate change or not when the elephant in the room is population growth, rampant consumerism, continuing single use plastics, our oceans awash with these plastics, deforestation, land degradation, etc, etc....? We don't need to argue about what the science has to say or not on those things. Why is it the focus is on claimed "climate change" while the kinds of things I've mentioned above are pretty much being ignored?
Absolutely right, single use plastics are a scourge on the planet, as are we. Jonathon pie nailed it yet again, he said you can either be a hypocrite or an asshole on this subject. I'm quite happily a hypocrite. As far as population control, perhaps they should do with us what they did with satsumas, and make us mostly seedless.
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
What's the point in carping on about climate change or not when the elephant in the room is population growth, rampant consumerism, continuing single use plastics, our oceans awash with these plastics, deforestation, land degradation, etc, etc....? We don't need to argue about what the science has to say or not on those things. Why is it the focus is on claimed "climate change" while the kinds of things I've mentioned above are pretty much being ignored?
It isn't "claimed". It's real. And it's happening largely because of the things you mention. It's all one conversation.
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 2:22 am
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
What's the point in carping on about climate change or not when the elephant in the room is population growth, rampant consumerism, continuing single use plastics, our oceans awash with these plastics, deforestation, land degradation, etc, etc....? We don't need to argue about what the science has to say or not on those things. Why is it the focus is on claimed "climate change" while the kinds of things I've mentioned above are pretty much being ignored?
It is all under the same umbrella. It is related. Hopefully it is all now no longer being ignored , however there will be those that will choose to argue against the science and also against that which is very visible and needs no science

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Old Oct 17th 2019, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
What's the point in carping on about climate change or not when the elephant in the room is population growth, rampant consumerism, continuing single use plastics, our oceans awash with these plastics, deforestation, land degradation, etc, etc....? We don't need to argue about what the science has to say or not on those things. Why is it the focus is on claimed "climate change" while the kinds of things I've mentioned above are pretty much being ignored?
See you can talk sense when you try.

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Old Oct 17th 2019, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow View Post
As for man-made climate change, well, it's a long way from being proven, and from being settled.
Look up the term 'Albedo effect' and then 'snowball earth'.....

There is no doubt whatsoever that human development has altered the earths climate, and this is ignoring the effect the release of greenhouse gases through industrial processes has.

That said, in my opinion how much of an effect human processes have had in the grand scheme of things compared with natural ice age cycles is highly debatable.... and splitting the two is very very difficult.
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And then after spending all those trillions of dollars spent and all the arguments some nutcase drops a nuclear bomb:that a balls it up?
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 4:58 pm
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It seems that the Russian government does NOT believe "the science is settled". What??? Do they think they know better than a Swedish teenage dropout who has been on the telly? Warning to those who believe the science IS settled... Some of the comments on this article will disturb you.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/rus...oar-businesses
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 5:08 pm
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It seems that the Russian government does NOT believe "the science is settled". What??? Do they think they know better than a Swedish teenage dropout who has been on the telly? Warning to those who believe the science IS settled... Some of the comments on this article will disturb you.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/rus...oar-businesses
Did you even read the article?
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow View Post
It seems that the Russian government does NOT believe "the science is settled". What??? Do they think they know better than a Swedish teenage dropout who has been on the telly? Warning to those who believe the science IS settled... Some of the comments on this article will disturb you.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/rus...oar-businesses
Zero Hedge? Oy Vey.

Now I know you're not ever going to speak out against your handler Daddy Putin, but have you ever stopped to think that the Russian government might be a tiny bit biased here given they stand to gain a whole bunch of arable land and warm water ports as a result of climate change?

No, my dear, the science is settled, and it has been settled since before Greta was born, and they were already dealing with the idea before I was born. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean that said something is not real.
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Zero Hedge? Oy Vey.

Now I know you're not ever going to speak out against your handler Daddy Putin, but have you ever stopped to think that the Russian government might be a tiny bit biased here given they stand to gain a whole bunch of arable land and warm water ports as a result of climate change?

No, my dear, the science is settled, and it has been settled since before Greta was born, and they were already dealing with the idea before I was born. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean that said something is not real.
Not to mention that the campaign against the legislation 'was led by the influential Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs'
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse View Post
Not to mention that the campaign against the legislation 'was led by the influential Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs'
Oh god, that's perfect
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Old Oct 17th 2019, 6:32 pm
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I can't work out whether Gordon is the most ineffectual and transparent troll ever or just thick.
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I can't work out whether Gordon is the most ineffectual and transparent troll ever or just thick.
Why can't it be both?
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