Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by Neptuno
(Post 10998026)
It's not very surprising why some move back to UK
Just a few ideas! Unfair variances in regional laws eg IHT Allowances abolished in Murcia, increased in Valencia. Complicated tax system and laws Frustratingly slow bureaucracy Being told to"see a lawyer" if having problems, eneding up paying him more than you are owed or claiming! New assets law requiring v detailed private info, with draconian fines for minor mistakes Conflicting and inaccurate advice from experts, especially about income tax Wrongly believing that Spain is cheaper and less stressful Expensive electricity Lack of support and aftercare in Spanish NHS, for people with long term conditions dementia, strokes, MS etc Care homes are only for the wealthy-how do you cope? Lack of support .if having problems with utilities eg inaccurate huge bills, being cut off, even if you are in the right. Cruelty to animals Missing family-Skype no substitute for hug! More expensive flights |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 10998051)
Everybody elses fault except their own then?
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Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by crookesey
(Post 10997930)
I quite like smart vans, business cards, smart appearance, professional invoices etc, not Jack the lad with a toolbox and a clapped out car, just do in Spain what you would do in the UK.
After one initial bad experience we are now very suspicious of Brits who tend to "pounce" on new arrivals and ingratiate themselves, with the ulterior motive of making money out of them, be it from building work, looking after holiday homes, or whatever. |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by Neptuno
(Post 10998069)
So, which of these things on the list don't you agree with, which could be termed as someone's fault?
My wife and I moved to Spain at 27 years old and with just 10k in the bank. We are doing very well thank you, but then we moved here for the right reasons and were well prepared The main problem young British people have when they move to Spain is that they have come to relax and enjoy the weather and beaches etc. Yes you can do that in your spare time, but you have to work hard to be able to "afford" your spare time. And in order to work hard you need to be well educated, great work experience,fluent Spanish speakers, good at networking etc. And of course have a good slice of luck Many British expats that come to Spain (who are not retired) think it will just be a long holiday, or they can work part time in something they have little experience in, and then expect to have a great lifestyle. Life doesnt work like that. Historically those Brits who have had a good lifestyle in Spain are the ones who sold their houses in the UK and lived on the profits. Few have ever been able to work and build a life for themselves actually within Spain, because Spain doesnt need their services or skills The few who do this are probably the English journos and teachers, of which there is a splattering across Spain, and they are not in the tourist areas. If you live in a tourist area then you will probably be living like a tourist, and so it should be no surprise when your funds run out and you have to go home, like every tourist must do |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 10998145)
Well, all of them have some truth in them. If you moved to Spain in complete ignorance then they could be a shock to you. But they are exagerrated and none of them are barriers unless you want them to be
My wife and I moved to Spain at 27 years old and with just 10k in the bank. We are doing very well thank you, but then we moved here for the right reasons and were well prepared The main problem young British people have when they move to Spain is that they have come to relax and enjoy the weather and beaches etc. Yes you can do that in your spare time, but you have to work hard to be able to "afford" your spare time. And in order to work hard you need to be well educated, great work experience,fluent Spanish speakers, good at networking etc. And of course have a good slice of luck Many British expats that come to Spain (who are not retired) think it will just be a long holiday, or they can work part time in something they have little experience in, and then expect to have a great lifestyle. Life doesnt work like that. Historically those Brits who have had a good lifestyle in Spain are the ones who sold their houses in the UK and lived on the profits. Few have ever been able to work and build a life for themselves actually within Spain, because Spain doesnt need their services or skills The few who do this are probably the English journos and teachers, of which there is a splattering across Spain, and they are not in the tourist areas. If you live in a tourist area then you will probably be living like a tourist, and so it should be no surprise when your funds run out and you have to go home, like every tourist must do The point I don´t agree on however, is having to declare our UK assets or bank account balances to hacienda. In our case the potential cost, (that have yet to be decided) in taxes and such, is enough to make the OH decide that it is not worth staying in Spain as a resident. We have seen a few nice places in Portugal not far from the Spanish border and will be having a half year rental, when we find the right place. We will still have to be paying the cuota to the SS in Spain, (which we don´t mind) and tax on Spanish earnings, but we will have our tax residency in the UK. |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
(Post 10997720)
Why don´t you go back to Devon but somewhere else, i.e. Exeter.
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Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by paintermujer
(Post 10997800)
Well Im no novice at moving back.This will be the third time so I already know how I will feel.....time to give up on my spanish dream now maybe.
so maybe you could be working to retire to Spain, when your income will not be hit and miss, and it is better late than never.:fingerscrossed: |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10998280)
There are lots of posts from retired members and TBH they have it much easier than the people with families to think of.
so maybe you could be working to retire to Spain, when your income will not be hit and miss, and it is better late than never.:fingerscrossed: |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Why should anyone, Spanish or not, deal with someone just because they have come to live in Spain? In the UK immigrants have brought their food to tempt us, and tempt us it has, but every Greater Asian kid can't afford to open a restaurant, so what new innovative ideas do they have?
Spain needs businesses that employ Spanish people, I don't think that it's British/Irish pubs or Poundland shops that are required, but the likes of Aldi and Lidl have prospered in Spain, as have MacDonalds, Burger King and Starbucks, but where were the Brits when all of this was going on? |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by crookesey
(Post 10998313)
Why should anyone, Spanish or not, deal with someone just because they have come to live in Spain? In the UK immigrants have brought their food to tempt us, and tempt us it has, but every Greater Asian kid can't afford to open a restaurant, so what new innovative ideas do they have?
Spain needs businesses that employ Spanish people, I don't think that it's British/Irish pubs or Poundland shops that are required, but the likes of Aldi and Lidl have prospered in Spain, as have MacDonalds, Burger King and Starbucks, but where were the Brits when all of this was going on? |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10998280)
There are lots of posts from retired members and TBH they have it much easier than the people with families to think of.
so maybe you could be working to retire to Spain, when your income will not be hit and miss, and it is better late than never.:fingerscrossed: I have seen so many living from hand to mouth doing odd jobs, airport runs etc. Not unusual to be asked for a loan to pay their fare home they leave it until the last minute to leave. |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 10998322)
I have seen so many living from hand to mouth doing odd jobs, airport runs etc. Not unusual to be asked for a loan to pay their fare home they leave it until the last minute to leave. |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by crookesey
(Post 10998313)
Why should anyone, Spanish or not, deal with someone just because they have come to live in Spain? In the UK immigrants have brought their food to tempt us, and tempt us it has, but every Greater Asian kid can't afford to open a restaurant, so what new innovative ideas do they have?
Spain needs businesses that employ Spanish people, I don't think that it's British/Irish pubs or Poundland shops that are required, but the likes of Aldi and Lidl have prospered in Spain, as have MacDonalds, Burger King and Starbucks, but where were the Brits when all of this was going on? Primark appears to do well, but that's Irish I believe? Ikea and Apple are also opening over Spain. The only Brit retail outfit I can remember in Spain was Marks and Spencer - but they closed up most of them around 10 years ago, although I've been told they're back on the cds. Spanish companies like Zara, Mango even Santander are far more common on the British high street. Irish pubs though - they seem to be everywhere.. |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 10998343)
The only Brit retail outfit I can remember in Spain was Marks and Spencer - but they closed up most of them around 10 years ago, although I've been told they're back on the cds. Spanish companies like Zara, Mango even Santander are far more common on the British high street.
Irish pubs though - they seem to be everywhere.. |
Re: Your feelings when you moved back to the Uk.
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 10998349)
That's true, I can't think of a single British company that has a presence in Spain, on the high street that is
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