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Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by megmet
(Post 9686855)
Thanks for that link as I wasn't aware of what was happening, and as I get a Local Government pension and did in fact buy back years it could be very relevant to me.
It was bad enough that I lost 23% for retiring at sixty (on ill health) my official retirement age... rather than at the 65 they insisted it should be, then on top of that to find they downgraded increases to CPI. :thumbdown: The only time you can take it at 60 onwards with no deduction is if you have reached the Rule of 85, where your length of service plus your age adds up to 85 or more. This does mean I can actually draw mine a few months before my 65th birthday with no penalties. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Doesn't sound like you need a winter fuel payment Scampi???
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Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by licinius
(Post 9687219)
Doesn't sound like you need a winter fuel payment Scampi???
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Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by scampicat
(Post 9687204)
The retirement age for Local Government is indeed 65, which is why despite being over 60 and retired since I was 55, have not drawn my Pension yet as I don't want the deduction.
The only time you can take it at 60 onwards with no deduction is if you have reached the Rule of 85, where your length of service plus your age adds up to 85 or more. This does mean I can actually draw mine a few months before my 65th birthday with no penalties. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by licinius
(Post 9687219)
Doesn't sound like you need a winter fuel payment Scampi???
Why not? |
Re: winter fuel payment
Doesn't sound like you do that's all. You retired early & haven't drawn your pension yet so you're obviously not in need of benefits. Just an observation.
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Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by scampicat
(Post 9687204)
The retirement age for Local Government is indeed 65, which is why despite being over 60 and retired since I was 55, have not drawn my Pension yet as I don't want the deduction.
The only time you can take it at 60 onwards with no deduction is if you have reached the Rule of 85, where your length of service plus your age adds up to 85 or more. This does mean I can actually draw mine a few months before my 65th birthday with no penalties. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
(Post 9687271)
I had a very small pension with the local authority and was allowed to take it at 60. The difference between that and leaving it to 65 was minimal.
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Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by Lionda
(Post 9687274)
A bird in the hand .... :thumbup:
Más vale pájaro en mano que cien volando. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
(Post 9687271)
I had a very small pension with the local authority and was allowed to take it at 60. The difference between that and leaving it to 65 was minimal.
Each to their own choice! (However, just checked and I will lose far less than this next August if I take it two years early (about 250 a year), so might review my financial situation then as we might needthe lump sum to get a new car!!) :) |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by licinius
(Post 9687258)
Doesn't sound like you do that's all. You retired early & haven't drawn your pension yet so you're obviously not in need of benefits. Just an observation.
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Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by scampicat
(Post 9687204)
The retirement age for Local Government is indeed 65, which is why despite being over 60 and retired since I was 55, have not drawn my Pension yet as I don't want the deduction.
The only time you can take it at 60 onwards with no deduction is if you have reached the Rule of 85, where your length of service plus your age adds up to 85 or more. This does mean I can actually draw mine a few months before my 65th birthday with no penalties. It will indeed be interesting to see the outcome of the legal action. Why should it not be seen as mis-selling, when people signed up to a pension scheme because it offered certain things (and often that was one of the main reasons, if not the only reason, why they chose to take a job with that employer), and then they see the benefits being diluted. Changing the rules for new entrants is one thing, if the scheme is proving too expensive to be sustainable in the long term, but taking benefits away from existing members is wrong, IMO. And yes, I know that people paying into private schemes have suffered losses - I am one of them, having paid into an AVC scheme in addition to my final salary scheme. The private AVC scheme has performed miserably, I would have been better off keeping the money under the mattress. All that shows is that the Government is being disingenuous by urging people to make provision for their retirement by signing up to such schemes, whilst slashing benefits in the only ones that are really worthwhile. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by Lynn R;9687399[B
]If you left the Local Government superannuation scheme before the increased retirement age was introduced, ie you had frozen benefits, you still receive them at age 60. [/B] My OH has been receiving his LG pension for 2 years now, with no actuarial reduction. This never seemed very fair to me, when people who carried on working in Local Government have to wait until 65, in most cases.
It will indeed be interesting to see the outcome of the legal action. Why should it not be seen as mis-selling, when people signed up to a pension scheme because it offered certain things (and often that was one of the main reasons, if not the only reason, why they chose to take a job with that employer), and then they see the benefits being diluted. Changing the rules for new entrants is one thing, if the scheme is proving too expensive to be sustainable in the long term, but taking benefits away from existing members is wrong, IMO. And yes, I know that people paying into private schemes have suffered losses - I am one of them, having paid into an AVC scheme in addition to my final salary scheme. The private AVC scheme has performed miserably, I would have been better off keeping the money under the mattress. All that shows is that the Government is being disingenuous by urging people to make provision for their retirement by signing up to such schemes, whilst slashing benefits in the only ones that are really worthwhile. Unfortunatley, I do not fulfil the rule of 85 until a few months before my 65th birthday. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by scampicat
(Post 9687418)
The retirement age has always been 65, afaik. Maybe your husband qualified because he fulfilled the Rule of 85? My colleague was in this position, by the time he was 60 he had paid into the Pension Scheme for over 30 years, so 60 + 30 = 90 (more than 85). If you are in this position you can take your Pension at 60 with no actuarial reduction.
Unfortunatley, I do not fulfil the rule of 85 until a few months before my 65th birthday. |
Re: winter fuel payment
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 9687440)
I was in the civil service years ago, and my retirement date (yes, I actually get a pension from them) is 60. The wife retired at 60 as well. Civil and Local are obviously different, unless they have changed the goal posts on that as well
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