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Old Aug 2nd 2025 | 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by 1sexsmith
My son's neighbour in Spain is an English gentleman. He had a bunion on his foot. His doctor gave him antibiotics. Within a month or so it has become greatly affected and , unbelievably they had to amputate the leg. I am being perfectly serious! The neighbours in the building were so angry blaming it totally on the ineptitude of the doctor they are now assisting the family in bringing a court action against Valencia health service. I very much that would have happened in UK but again this is also probably an example of how lacking support and having family etc makes foreigners actually more vulnerable in Spain than UK.
On the other side. I registered here in Scotland with my GP within a few days ( all done online so no need to go anywhere ) and was given an appointment to get a check up ( didn't ask for it) . Nice doctor who simply wanted to know what meds I'm on. Took my BP and told me I take readings and send results every few months via app and they automatically track everything. Had bloods taken too. So pretty good. Less stressful as all in English obviously. So at the moment I haven't encountered the terrible NHS monster I have been told exists.
My father went into an NHS hospital after having had a stroke (not a severe one). He had type 2 diabetes and had previously had problems with foot infections, but didn't have any infection when he was admitted. He didn't receive any diabetic foot care whatsoever for weeks (in spite of them having his records and us telling them what the podiatrist said he must do every day, all they did was administer his insulin. I asked for him to be seen by the hospiptal podiatry team and received the reply, they are very busy you know. Unsurprisingly given the hygiene conditions he developed an infection which they treated so ineptly that during his six month stay as an inpatient before he eventually died, he had not one but 3 amputation operations. After the first one no.one from the surgical team came to check on him until 5 days after his surgery, despite complaints from me and other family members. In our experience as a family, NHS primary care and treatment in the community was quite good, the real problems started when admitted to a hospital. But I hope your experience will continue to be a positive one, I believe public services in Scotland are in somewhat better shape than they are in England, no doubt due in part to the slightly higher rate of income tax paid in Scotland.
 
Old Aug 2nd 2025 | 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by 1sexsmith
Individual experiences are fine but don't equate to the bigger picture or rather the initial assumption that Spain' poor employment rate can be balanced against it longevity rate.
My son's neighbour in Spain is an English gentleman. He had a bunion on his foot. His doctor gave him antibiotics. Within a month or so it has become greatly affected and , unbelievably they had to amputate the leg. I am being perfectly serious! The neighbours in the building were so angry blaming it totally on the ineptitude of the doctor they are now assisting the family in bringing a court action against Valencia health service. I very much that would have happened in UK but again this is also probably an example of how lacking support and having family etc makes foreigners actually more vulnerable in Spain than UK.
On the other side. I registered here in Scotland with my GP within a few days ( all done online so no need to go anywhere ) and was given an appointment to get a check up ( didn't ask for it) . Nice doctor who simply wanted to know what meds I'm on. Took my BP and told me I take readings and send results every few months via app and they automatically track everything. Had bloods taken too. So pretty good. Less stressful as all in English obviously. So at the moment I haven't encountered the terrible NHS monster I have been told exists.
The other weird thing ( slightly off topic) is the first thing on Sky news this morning was a story of Britain's most wanted criminal called Kevin Parle - there I am eating breakfast when I hear the word " Torrevieja" and hear them talking about how he was seen there and was believed to be shielded by UK organized crime gangs that hide our there. I checked up online and found the small urbanisation is opposite my son's old school bus stop! Weird coincidence.
It is standard practice in the UK when a patient joins a practice to have an health check as you describe it's usually done by a nurse though. It's to ensure they are fully up to date re any meds conditions etc just in case something isn't recorded correctly on your record, doubly important as you moved to Spain. I had exactly the same experience here in Spain after signing on at the doctor and getting my health card. Funny enough I saw on UK TV last day or so that this is one of the issues in certain areas of UK people are signing on at doctors but waiting over 18 weeks in some cases for these checks. Seemingly without the checks it can affect their access to full medical treatment. I think the terrible NHS monster you describe is dependant on region in UK some areas being worse than others I would guess rural GPs don't have the same patient number stresses that cities or heavily populated towns have? Also Scottish NHS is separate to NHS England funded differently and with it's own management. System
 
Old Aug 2nd 2025 | 10:47 pm
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My husband recently got a missed call from a number originating from the Andalucian Health Service. Not having any appointments expected, we went to the Health Centre to ask about it and he was given an appointment with our named nurse for 2 days later. She said they were just doing assessments on older patients (he's rarely had to see our doctor and doesn't take any medications so there's very little in his records). As well as questions about whether he had any symptoms of this or that, she asked if he could manage to do various things independently and about our living situation and accessibility. Then said she might as well do one for me whilst we were there.

Oh, and the assessments were conducted entirely in Spanish (as was my cardiology appointment) and I can't say we found them stressful at all. Neither of us is fluent in Spanish but we manage well enough.

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Old Aug 3rd 2025 | 1:05 am
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We all will have different experiences although I do find that people assessing healthcare often don't speak the language and rely on either a doctor or translator. There is a big difference in perception of you can't fully understand everything that you are being told. My ex does emergency call handling and often ends up in hospital or on phones translating and she says the doctors are often rude and condencending - she reported one for questioning her ability to remain emotionally detached ( horrible things happen in emergency calls) because she was a woman!! So I think comparing the two systems isnt quite as straightforward as it seems.
Anyway we have gone a bit off topic. My fault
 
Old Aug 3rd 2025 | 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
My husband recently got a missed call from a number originating from the Andalucian Health Service. Not having any appointments expected, we went to the Health Centre to ask about it and he was given an appointment with our named nurse for 2 days later. She said they were just doing assessments on older patients (he's rarely had to see our doctor and doesn't take any medications so there's very little in his records). As well as questions about whether he had any symptoms of this or that, she asked if he could manage to do various things independently and about our living situation and accessibility. Then said she might as well do one for me whilst we were there.

Oh, and the assessments were conducted entirely in Spanish (as was my cardiology appointment) and I can't say we found them stressful at all. Neither of us is fluent in Spanish but we manage well enough.
That has been our experience and how we have dealt with things Lynn. Recently we were asked by a friends daughter if we could collect her fathers medical records from the hospital at Torre as he had died and she lived outside Spain. She had given our details they rang we attended the hospital and managed with our non fluent spanish to deal with it and obtain records. With a bit of effort and helpful patient spanish medical staff quite a bit can be achieved which helps ones confidence and learning of the language.
 

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