Originally Posted by amideislas

Hmm. I was always led to believe native Europeans were pretty much all of the same "race". Different nationalities, perhaps, but race? Well, it makes a good argument when you disagree with someone else's opinion, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by amideislas

Hmm. I was always led to believe native Europeans were pretty much all of the same "race". Different nationalities, perhaps, but race? Well, it makes a good argument when you disagree with someone else's opinion, I reckon.

Anyway, I still haven't figured out why so many seem to list their houses for far above their legitimate market value, leaving it there for 5 or more years, whilst every immobiliaria tells them it's extremely overpriced and there's no chance of a sale. But they won't budge, and the property just sits and depreciates.

I've overheard the locals discussing it at times, and the general impression I get of their attitude is that they seem to believe their properties are worth millions, and the €600K they are asking for a property worth €200K is already a 50% discount. Perhaps they seem to be sure of this because of the fish tales told by their neighbours and friends, "I got over a Million for mine" (when they actually were forced to accept a 200K offer to cover their debts).

But there they sit. I know one place in the neighbourhood that's been for sale and empty for over 7 years. It's all overgrown and looking very shabby now, but he still won't budge on the price.

Again, I still tend to think competition is a rather new concept here. Overpricing, however, is and age-old practice.

Originally Posted by cricketman

If you are going to use that argument, then there is only one race anyway, the human race

"Racism" is a shorthand for those who think that certain nationalities or people who look a certain way are inferior to other nationalities or to people who look a slightly different way

As you well know

Originally Posted by cricketman

If you are going to use that argument, then there is only one race anyway, the human race

"Racism" is a shorthand for those who think that certain nationalities or people who look a certain way are inferior to other nationalities or to people who look a slightly different way

As you well know

Originally Posted by cricketman

It's not fact at all, it is complete nonsense

Spaniards under 40 are exactly the same height as Brits, Americans or Dutch people under 40

The small Spaniards are those who grew up in hard times when nutrition was limited, mainly the over 60s

As for being blonde and blue eyed, there are plenty of those up here! Northen Spaniards are of Celtic descent, but even Andalucians can be blonde and blue eyed, remember El Cordobés, the famous bull fighter?

The seperate point about "losing your true identity" if you integrate into Spanish society is absolute rubbish also. I have only speaken Spanish outside of my home in the past 6 years, I havent lost anything, but I have gained a lot of insight and a lot of friends. I am the same person as 6 years ago, only a little wiser

Originally Posted by HBG

I was making a point of my physical appearance making it harder to integrate. My wife however, although London born, has no such hindrances. She has lived in Spain for most of her life and brought up two Spanish children along the way.

She's a brunette of medium height with total fluency in Spanish and has all the mannerisms as well. Most Spanish people are surprised when she speaks to them in English.

If you can judge people's integration levels by the language of their dreams and the occasional nightmare, then she is Spanish.

(I hope I'm not the cause of those nightmares, but who knows?)

Originally Posted by Domino

what is unrealistic about shipping jobs to India and Bangladesh that CAN be done in the UK. And more unrealistic after shipping the jobs out, getting the national govt to pay subsidies under the pretext of "Aid" and the EU govt to also pay subsidies under the pretext of "Aid" whilst also allowing such countries to trade tariff free.
This pushes the bubble into the wrong shape, people in places like Spain and UK lose jobs whilst their hard earned is going to support the people who have undercut them because of subsidies from their own govts.

lets get a bit of balance on this, lets get each country to stand on its own two feet, without all this aid slushing around (less than 50% actually gets to the right people anyway).
Stop the UK from stealing trained nurses and doctors from other countries to "make quota's" when they are needed in their own country.
Stop offering residency and nationality to people from across the world who work as slaves tending the sick and elderly when there are people around who can do the job - but won't because the benefits aretoo high.

rant over, out to the pub for a tubo............

Originally Posted by Domino

my BH is short, dark, often taken for a Spanish senorita until she tells them No Hablo Espanol in broad Essex

Originally Posted by Elle1971

Oh yeah - Spain also has a national footie team that actually wins stuff

Elle xx

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe

Sentiment wise I agree with a lot of that. But it's just unviable in today's world. Yes, you can cancel outsourcing and bring the jobs home - and then the company closes because it can't compete with others that do use the 3 dollars a day worker. And yes you can stop poaching of nurses and doctors elsewhere - but to keep our hospitals open we'd need to ban our trained nurses and doctors from seeking better paid work in the ME or US. Not going to happen, is it, if we stay a free and open country?

Originally Posted by agoreira

They got stuffed the other night! But I read in the Spanish newspaper it was the ref what did it, so that's OK.

Originally Posted by Elle1971

Oh... that's ok then.

Originally Posted by agoreira

Yes, penalised Spain with yellow cards but let those beastly Brazilians get away with murder.
http://www.abc.es/deportes/futbol/20...307010030.html

Originally Posted by scampicat

My husband always says my limited Spanish is spoken with a West Midlands accent. My argument is that the people where I lived spoke it with an Andaluz accent , so what's the difference?