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Old Dec 20th 2010 | 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by bil


My opinion is my opinion. I base it on observations made over many decades.

For every decent, true christian, I have come across dozens of nasty ones. If not more. That's a straight observation. Of course, since you don't like it, you accuse it of being biased. Why don't you try proving that it is biased?
Whether Christians are nice or nasty is not the point. I personally dont think they are any more nice or nasty than anyone else, but I do think they are dumber and more conceited "Oh I'd better do this because God will like me for it" and they have a misguided sense of self-importance.

People can be Christian if they want, but kids should not be made to sing hymns or say prayers (that is brain washing) and they certainly should be allowed to learn things like evolution which the crazy US fundamentalists have banned or made teachers teach "Intelligent Design" next to it.

There is only one word for that kind of behaviour - "backward"
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 4:43 am
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Oh dear god!
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 4:47 am
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Oh dear god!
Could you summarise what's going on in this here thready please?
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!
Could you summarise what's going on in this here thready please?
How many words ?
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 5:19 am
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Originally Posted by jdr
How many words ?
I have finally read it from beginning to end, Im amazed how one persons Faith can become the target for all of religions failings. If the news was filled with every "Peado" event that took place you would see how small an issue having some misguided priests is. Pedophiles are in every walk of life and because of their heinous nature they are good at wheedling their way in to positions that allow them to abuse. Tagging is a good option and treatment as well.

Attacking someones faith is a fools errand, You need to talk to their god to get the right answers.

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Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!
I have finally read it from beginning to end, Im amazed how one persons Faith can become the target for all of religions failings. If the news was filled with every "Peado" event that took place you would see how small an issue having some misguided priests is. Pedophiles are in every walk of life and because of their heinous nature they are good at wheedling their way in to positions that allow them to abuse. Tagging is a good option and treatment as well.

Attacking someones faith is a fools errand, You need to talk to their god to get the right answers.
Talking to most religious persons is a fool's errand, but every now and then I indulge. Some are genuinely nice people, and I think our scanticat is one of those.

Plus it's interesting to see if they can address the elephants in the room.

Paedo priests is not a small issue. It would be if the church dealt with it properly.

If they said to such a priest, "We recognise you have a problem, that you are ill. You now have a choice. Either we hand you over to the police now, or you go permanently into a closed religious order wher you will never be allowed near anyone under the age of 25."

Instead, the whole church, right to the man at the top conspire to aid and abet these priests, to pander for them as they move them from parish to parish, and finally to threaten most severely anyone who dares to inform on them.

That isn't a couple of bad apples, it's a rotten barrel.
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Whether Christians are nice or nasty is not the point. I personally dont think they are any more nice or nasty than anyone else, but I do think they are dumber and more conceited "Oh I'd better do this because God will like me for it" and they have a misguided sense of self-importance.

People can be Christian if they want, but kids should not be made to sing hymns or say prayers (that is brain washing) and they certainly should be allowed to learn things like evolution which the crazy US fundamentalists have banned or made teachers teach "Intelligent Design" next to it.

There is only one word for that kind of behaviour - "backward"
Yep. No-one should ever be allowed to indoctrinate children. IMO it's only one step away from child abuse.

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Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:22 am
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Originally Posted by bil

Yep. No-one should ever be allowed to indoctrinate children. IMO it's only one step away from child abuse.
Sort yer quotes out.
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!
Sort yer quotes out.
Not my mistake. I clicked on quote as per usual.
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Not my mistake. I clicked on quote as per usual.
It only takes one to correct it, If there are two names in [Commutators] then one set of them needs removing. It all went wrong/started in Scampi's post at 79 which you then quoted at 86.
Just makes for harder reading....

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Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!
It only takes one to correct it, If there are two names in [Commutators] then one set of them needs removing. It all went wrong/started in Scampi's post at 79.
You make the tragic mistake of thinking I'm adept at computer wossname.
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:48 am
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You make the tragic mistake of thinking I'm adept at computer wossname.
I dont think, Therefore im not
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!
It only takes one to correct it, If there are two names in [Commutators] then one set of them needs removing. It all went wrong/started in Scampi's post at 79 which you then quoted at 86.
Just makes for harder reading....
But it has to be the poster within a time limit or a mod if any are about.
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by jdr
But it has to be the poster within a time limit or a mod if any are about.
Yes, I'm about but I am sure, that with a bit of concentration, you can work it all out!

It beats Soduko!
 
Old Dec 20th 2010 | 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by Fred James
Yes, I'm about but I am sure, that with a bit of concentration, you can work it all out!

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