What's the reason behind Spanish retail success abroad?
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I've always thought Zara's stuff was crap, but as I said a while back in a similar discussion, so is McDonalds but the whole world buys it. Desigual clothes, whilst not what I would buy myself, are a lot better quality in terms of fabric and finish.
What I'd really like to know, though, is given your encyclopaedic knowledge of wealth creation and worship at the altar of capitalism - why can't you afford €150 for a pair of jeans?![ROFL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
I've paid that much before now, in order to get a perfect fit, and I'm a socialist!
What I'd really like to know, though, is given your encyclopaedic knowledge of wealth creation and worship at the altar of capitalism - why can't you afford €150 for a pair of jeans?
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I've paid that much before now, in order to get a perfect fit, and I'm a socialist!
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I've only ever been in one Zara store in my life. (these days I hardly ever buy clothes anyway). So I know nothing about the product but I do remember reading about their business model which is the key their success.
The main thing seems to be their control over the supply chain which means it only takes them 2 weeks to get new products to store. The industry average is about 6 months. Obviously that gives them a huge advantage as they can change with fashion and don't get stuck with lots of product thats not selling.
This article was over 5 years ago but british business have struggled to copy the model. Look at M&S's latest figures. They have no idea who their customers are - still trying to be all things for all people.
The main thing seems to be their control over the supply chain which means it only takes them 2 weeks to get new products to store. The industry average is about 6 months. Obviously that gives them a huge advantage as they can change with fashion and don't get stuck with lots of product thats not selling.
This article was over 5 years ago but british business have struggled to copy the model. Look at M&S's latest figures. They have no idea who their customers are - still trying to be all things for all people.
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Same reason thats behind this UK success I presume.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...hops-open.html
Now expanding into Spain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...hops-open.html
Now expanding into Spain.
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I've only ever been in one Zara store in my life. (these days I hardly ever buy clothes anyway). So I know nothing about the product but I do remember reading about their business model which is the key their success.
The main thing seems to be their control over the supply chain which means it only takes them 2 weeks to get new products to store. The industry average is about 6 months. Obviously that gives them a huge advantage as they can change with fashion and don't get stuck with lots of product thats not selling.
This article was over 5 years ago but british business have struggled to copy the model. Look at M&S's latest figures. They have no idea who their customers are - still trying to be all things for all people.
The main thing seems to be their control over the supply chain which means it only takes them 2 weeks to get new products to store. The industry average is about 6 months. Obviously that gives them a huge advantage as they can change with fashion and don't get stuck with lots of product thats not selling.
This article was over 5 years ago but british business have struggled to copy the model. Look at M&S's latest figures. They have no idea who their customers are - still trying to be all things for all people.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...6-billion.html
In weeks, this and hundreds of others creations inspired by pop culture or couture catwalks will fill the company’s more than 1,600 Zara stores in 85 countries on six continents. Since opening the first shop in his seaside home of La Coruna in 1975, billionaire founder Amancio Ortega has built the world’s largest clothing retailer -- and a fortune exceeding Warren Buffett’s, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its December cover package.
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So, is it a good thing that there are Spanish companies that are successful?
...or a bad thing, since opinions reflected here seem to suggest that everything they do is crap?
...or a bad thing, since opinions reflected here seem to suggest that everything they do is crap?
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Much of the fashion clothing they produce may be crap, quality wise, but isn't that the case everywhere in todays throwaway world.
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I think it is very difficult for companies such as M&S and Burtons to copy the methods of a company like Zara. They have been trying for years but when you have an existing company structure and methods its difficult to make such radical changes. There are plenty of examples of companies who try this and fail - British Airways could'nt run their low cost copy airline GO, for example.
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If the product is high fashion but low quality, surely that doesn't matter too much. If it falls to bits in the wash as its going out of fashion so what? I buy T shirts in Tescos. They cost £3 each and by the end of a season in my garden they're usual stained or torn anyway. Not quite the same as high fashion though
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I think it is very difficult for companies such as M&S and Burtons to copy the methods of a company like Zara. They have been trying for years but when you have an existing company structure and methods its difficult to make such radical changes. There are plenty of examples of companies who try this and fail - British Airways could'nt run their low cost copy airline GO, for example.
Companies like M&S and Burtons ( owned by Arcadia Group Ltd. is the largest business interest of retailing magnate Sir Philip Green, and is owned by his Monaco tax-resident wife Tina, via a holding company, for tax reasons) generally owe first allegience to those funds that have enabled the management to buy them out. They are generally mired in debt and senior management management are too far from the coal face to know what is going on. In effect they are too far out of the cycle to see the problems or respond to changes - this is usually seen when they havent seen a long range weather report saying rain and snow at the time they are rolling out the summer clothing range.
I think its great they are successful. The fact they are spanish is irrelevant (as in that doesn't influence me one way or the other). It's always good to see a new business model working.
If the product is high fashion but low quality, surely that doesn't matter too much. If it falls to bits in the wash as its going out of fashion so what? I buy T shirts in Tescos. They cost £3 each and by the end of a season in my garden they're usual stained or torn anyway. Not quite the same as high fashion though![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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All they are interested in is clothing that grabs the brain, at the right time, right place, right price.
And as to Tesco's T shirts, they are the bulk of my clothing stock, after more formal shirts, and at that price who is going to cry if you have worn them out and use them as dusters.
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One of the greatest UK success stories is the John Lewis Partnership, mainly because its owned by its workforce who therefore have a vested interest in its performance. Its one shop I always head for when I'm back in the UK.
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but aren't they one of those being hit by the NMW/Living Wage thingy ? ?
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A longer article on how Zara became so successful
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/ma...ewanted=1&_r=2
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/ma...ewanted=1&_r=2
In the last five years, Inditex’s overall sales have grown to 13.8 billion euros a year from 9.4 billion euros. Profit has risen to almost 2 billion euros a year. The company expanded to 110,000 employees in 2011, from around 80,000 in 2007. In short, while Spain has been suffering through real estate and debt crises (following the global financial crisis), Inditex has prospered. Echevarría said that is because the customer is always determining production — not the other way around. Every piece of clothing the company makes has, in a way, been requested. A business model that is so closely attuned to the customer does not share the cycle of a financial crisis.
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