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Old Nov 9th 2011 | 5:31 am
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No not a bad news thread I am interested as to how a report is covered and may read several news sites on the same story. I always read the Telegraph with my first coffee but I have to confess that some time during the day I do read the Mail. I also like to see how different countries cover the same story. The UK is very good at putting the country down and Spain very good at hyping itself up. Some I do remember are...

Amy Winehouse in concert, Spain. UK papers all had the same story (obviously churnalism put out by her PR team) It said Amy back on form and delighted the crowd etc. The Spanish papers said she was slurring and was booed and jeered. Obviously the spanish reporter was on the ground and was correct as various comments verified this.

This week at the World Travel fair in London. Spanish press conference said they were expecting a large increase in numbers from the UK to holiday in Spain next year. Day afterwards from the fair, a survey shows that one-third of Brits won't be taking a holiday next year.

A couple of weeks ago Spanish economic section in Sur had a large headline of Italian banks being downgraded. Down the page in small print was a report that spanish banks had been downgraded. It is fun to see how different stories are covered. Bottom line is that we believe what we want to be true and rubbish those that don't suit our perceptions
 
Old Nov 9th 2011 | 5:37 am
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I've got to say J2 you are hardly getting a balanced view reading the Telegraph and Mail.
 
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If I still read a UK paper it would be the Guardian. Here, if it's lying around, I'll read El Pais in the bar.
 
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If I still read a UK paper it would be the Guardian. Here, if it's lying around, I'll read El Pais in the bar.
That's not a balanced view either.
 
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Originally Posted by johnnyone
That's not a balanced view either.
What the Guardian? It's a long time since I read it, but when I did, it was a very balanced paper. There was a report (not done by the guardian) after the Labour landslide, investigating just how balanced or not was the reporting in all the papers. Of all the papers, the Guardan came out as the one that was the most balanced, and also the one with the least negative reporting.

El Pais has a surprising level of international news I find.
 
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Well I do read others too was just a starter. Never ever read the Sun and the Mirror. I don't read the Times as I wouldn't pay on principle.
 
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This may seem odd but I buy and read both the Telegraph and the Mirror (better than it's given credit for) plus any other papers that are laying around. It's interesting how the same story can be reported so differently.
I just do not see the point of reading a paper that just reflects your own views.

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I haven't seen an English paper in years. Only ones I see are on Sky tv in a morning when they do the papers, all doom and gloom.

When in the UK I never bought one either for the same reason.
 
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I probably pick up more stories via Twitter and Meneame than other sources (although I do have quite a large list of bookmarks). I often read the Evening Standard as I pick it up just outside the nearest tube station. On the web I sometimes look at the Guardian and elPais sites, but normally there are other sites I look over (both in Spanish and in English). I sometimes end up on another newspaper site like the Mail via a twitter link.
It feels strange but I remember 20 or 30 years ago I would buy a paper most days - very rare to buy one now.
 
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I haven't seen an English paper in years. Only ones I see are on Sky tv in a morning when they do the papers, all doom and gloom.

When in the UK I never bought one either for the same reason.
Pretty much why I stopped buying the bloody things.
 
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I read the Evening Standard some days as Daughter picks it up. News is really up to date. Just booked a day trip through an advert in there. Day trip to France including car £19 plus 6 bottles of wine free and 2 meals for one. Will get some gourmet food for Xmas and have a good French lunch.
I sometimes read the German news in English for another angle. Can't do with the Guardian...it should be called the council workers Times. I also read the Naples news (they don't know where Spain is) and our local papers.

Anonimoue to say you haven't read a UK paper for months you sure have a lot of opinions. They are doom and gloom though, sad fact that bad news sells papers. Although it would be difficult to find any good news right now.
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
I read the Evening Standard some days as Daughter picks it up. News is really up to date. Just booked a day trip through an advert in there. Day trip to France including car £19 plus 6 bottles of wine free and 2 meals for one. Will get some gourmet food for Xmas and have a good French lunch.
I sometimes read the German news in English for another angle. Can't do with the Guardian...it should be called the council workers Times. I also read the Naples news (they don't know where Spain is) and our local papers.

Anonimoue to say you haven't read a UK paper for months you sure have a lot of opinions. They are doom and gloom though, sad fact that bad news sells papers. Although it would be difficult to find any good news right now.
I said I hadn't seen an English paper, and it was in years not months. I read all sorts online without suporting the papers with my money, as for my opinions, yep just trying to add some variety for you

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Reading Italian papers would mostly have you believe that Berlusconi is a marvel and has done great things for the country.

Reading other papers tells you that he's a full on twat and that all Italians should be ashamed of some of his behaviour both in Italy and abroad.

The twat in question owns more than half the bloody media here which accounts for many of the warped articles here.
 
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I browse the online headlines in the sensible papers each morning to make sure we're not at war again, and that Spain hasn't used the midnight hours to return to the Peseta.

After walking the big dog just as the sun rises, I switch on Sky and then the Spanish news, but neither for very long because I have work to do.

On a weekly basis, if there is a big story that interests me, or affects me directly, I read the appropriate foreign versions to get a more balanced view, bearing in mind that each country has a national interest.

The current big one which I suspect will affect all of us directly is the Euro story. The British and Eurozone papers often tell an entirely different story - the Telegraph and Der Spiegel, for example, seem to be printed on different planets.

I sat up tonight when a sensible economic British expert commented on the possible failure of Italy. He mentioned that all European countries would have to close their (banking) borders immediately. I had visions of walking to the nearest cash point, having my card swallowed up and hearing some electronic laughter at the same time.

I might stockpile a few Euros, pounds and Swiss Francs, just in case.

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Originally Posted by jackytoo
No not a bad news thread I am interested as to how a report is covered and may read several news sites on the same story. I always read the Telegraph with my first coffee but I have to confess that some time during the day I do read the Mail. I also like to see how different countries cover the same story. The UK is very good at putting the country down and Spain very good at hyping itself up. Some I do remember are...

Dare I ask you how much you waste on these papers of propoganda each week?
 


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