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Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by Gophie
(Post 9856508)
We could go on all night discussing the pros and cons about staying in Spain or moving back to the UK.
I know we can go out tonight and walk back home late at night in safety and my wife is quite happy to walk about the village in the evening on her own. My in-laws however live in a town in Suffolk and will not go out after dark because they consider it unsafe. Yep, maybe Spain can sometimes be a shithole of a place, but then again, so can the UK. It's all about personal choice, at the moment we are happy here. Nobody can predict what the future holds for any us. |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9856863)
Well as the saying goes, one persons treasure is another persons junk:rolleyes:
A lot of riff raff moving to the costa put off quite a lot of normal decent people . It's hard to imagine anyone being such a narrow minded stuck up snob as you portray yourself as here, go on Jacky come clean.....it's all a big act...isn't it? :unsure: |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
I'm real:p It's not snobbish, seen other discussions on forums about the some of the underclass that started drifting to Spain around 2002. I could name a few coastal and inland places that have attracted more than their share of low life. The spanish forums sometimes comment too, typical is "We have got all the mierda from the UK"
This article in the Telegraph says that most ex-pats in Spain are happier. But then I wonder why there are literally many thousands of Brit properties for sale:unsure: Some places look as if 90% of the pueblo is en venta. The las para made me smile. "We’ll all Facebook a snap of us on the beach in December – but if it’s blowing a force nine and we’re huddled around a two-bar electric heater on a ice-cold tiled floor we’ll keep schtum. After all, we moved to Spain for the 'dream' so we can’t shatter that illusion, not just for our friends’ but for our own sake". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...stination.html |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
According to this, it seems that the happiest British expats in the world, are to be found in Spain
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-ne...piness-survey/ SPAIN has the happiest British expats in the world, according to a new study. A Lloyds TSB International survey quizzed a thousand British residents living abroad about their quality of life. Over 75 per cent of those living in Spain said that they were happier now than when they resided in the UK, with 80 per cent saying their cost of living was very low – this despite the current economic crisis. One thing about Spain though - it does make some Brits very annoyed that other Brits choose to live there and enjoy the experience. |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
So you didn't bother to read my link Stevie. If you did you would see I have just put it on:rofl:
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Re: What keeps you in Spain
It seems the expat dream is alive and well.
http://www.surinenglish.com/20120113...201131322.html Two weeks before Christmas, Andrew and Kelly Owen left their rented flat in Brighton, England, for the last time. Having met family and friends the night before for an early festive celebration, the couple, both aged 33, headed for Gatwick airport: destination Malaga and a new life together. “When Andrew was made redundant in July, we began thinking about moving to Spain seriously. It had always been a dream to relocate to the Costa del Sol after having spent every holiday in the last eight years at Andrew’s parents’ apartment in Estepona – an area of the coast we’d fallen in love with,†says Kelly. “As we were now both freelancer graphic designers, we felt we could, in effect, work anywhere, so we took the plunge,†Kelly explains. The couple’s story is a familiar one. But in recent years, the weak pound, rising living costs, plummeting property prices, and crippling unemployment levels have put off many would-be expatriates from coming to Spain in search of that much-lauded idyllic new life in the sun. However, despite the depressing economic outlook, it appears that there remains a great number of people, like the Owens, who are still keen to pursue the dream. Indeed, a recent survey carried out by The Post Office says that more than a third of Britons under 34 years old are considering leaving the UK. Similarly, research published in the Daily Mail says that 75 per cent of Britons have considered moving abroad, with Spain remaining a popular relocation choice. These findings are supported by figures from Spain’s National Institute of Statistics, which reports that in the first nine months of 2011, a total of 14,506 additional foreign nationals, the vast majority from the EU, arrived in Malaga province. This only reflects those who have registered. It's certainly making me consider my plans. :unsure: |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
For me it had never been a "dream", never even thought about living abroad until about 6 months prior to buying. Came as quite a shock to my OH when I said in passing one day that I would not mind giving it a go. When we came to look at houses I was surprised to find a house that appealled in a town that somehow felt "right", in an area that is a mixture of orange groves, rice fields, mountains and the sea only 8 kms away.
We have never regretted our choice, enjoying the experience and at the present time cannot envisage us going back but have not totally discounted it in the future. As it is a fiesta we have just had the mascleta and for the first time we went to the town hall square to experience it at close quarters instead of from our roof top. Never thought that I would enjoy it at close quarters but I did, never too old to have fun. For me Spain itself does not keep me here. The people of my town play a very, very large part in my wanting to stay, the town and the area are an important part of why I am content to stay, and the weather has a minor role in so far as I do enjoy seeing a cheerful blue sky rather than a miserable grey one. If it had been a dream that I had followed I think that I would possibly be highlighting negatives due to the fact that reality rarely ever seems to live up our dreams. Rosemary |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9856475)
The only time I would think of people being a failure is if they only stayed a few months or those that started a business and lost everything. People are different, some can't see their way back but whinge all the time, others are genuinely content. At one time I didn't think we would go back but I never said I wouldn't. Death, divorce and illness sometimes makes the decision too
Personally, I couldn't think of anything worse than being stuck in a narrow minded small pueblo full of toothless hags and crude old men and poorly educated youngsters... Obviously we all like to chew the fat on here and put the world to rights. You can't do that in a spanish community however fluent you are. It's maybe ok for the locals having a discussion that Spain is a shit of a place but it's their shit and they don't like guiris criticising the local politics. In our pueblo we have toothless old women. That's poverty for you but poverty isn't all "shit". Though I've posted elsewhere that losing your teeth isn't fun! ;) and cheeky old men and kids who are just happy being who they are. It depends on how you look at it. Many of them are more cultured and rich in human experience than many on here I have to say! I think if 'upscaling' takes you away from this to a lonely unconnected existence, you're losing out. I know British villages can be less welcoming but if you take a little time to fit in you are truly taken into their hearts here. Obviously some people neither want to...nor would be able to do this. If the worst happened and I lost my OH or he lost me and /or either of us ended up very frail. I know that those same wonderful old ladies would help out as they help eachother out. And do you know. This kind of person doesn't need teeth to be beautiful! Many clearly don't want this lifestyle but like Meg I couldn't consider giving it up now. After all what do the rich Sevillanos and Onubenses do in our area? They use their hard earned cash to buy a little finca or village house and get back to the simple life every weekend, and wish all week that they could afford to stay longer. There must be some value in it! That's why I stay. Because I've worked hard to get back to where I started. A country girl. (Although my parents grew up in a city..we moved to the country when I was just a toddler) The Spanish villagers value time. That's emotionally intelligent! It must be a case of town mouse and country mouse. Some couldn't fit in and feel happy here. |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by angiescarr
(Post 9857836)
What a strange and insulting view of village life.
In our pueblo we have toothless old women. That's poverty for you but poverty isn't all "shit". Though I've posted elsewhere that losing your teeth isn't fun! ;) and cheeky old men and kids who are just happy being who they are. It depends on how you look at it. Many of them are more cultured and rich in human experience than many on here I have to say! I think if 'upscaling' takes you away from this to a lonely unconnected existence, you're losing out. I know British villages can be less welcoming but if you take a little time to fit in you are truly taken into their hearts here. Obviously some people neither want to...nor would be able to do this. If the worst happened and I lost my OH or he lost me and /or either of us ended up very frail. I know that those same wonderful old ladies would help out as they help eachother out. And do you know. This kind of person doesn't need teeth to be beautiful! Many clearly don't want this lifestyle but like Meg I couldn't consider giving it up now. After all what do the rich Sevillanos and Onubenses do in our area? They use their hard earned cash to buy a little finca or village house and get back to the simple life every weekend, and wish all week that they could afford to stay longer. There must be some value in it! That's why I stay. Because I've worked hard to get back to where I started. A country girl. (Although my parents grew up in a city..we moved to the country when I was just a toddler) The Spanish villagers value time. That's emotionally intelligent! It must be a case of town mouse and country mouse. Some couldn't fit in and feel happy here. |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by jdr
(Post 9857881)
Good post, but maybe best not to feed the trolls. :rofl:
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Re: What keeps you in Spain
You can't have exclusive threads on a forum. I could join in anyway as I moved to a pretty village close to Ronda, nice place (for a visit). Before we had finished the reforma decided that it wasn't for us. We sold in 2 months. Would take years to sell one now.
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Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9857985)
You can't have exclusive threads on a forum. I could join in anyway as I moved to a pretty village close to Ronda, nice place (for a visit). Before we had finished the reforma decided that it wasn't for us. We sold in 2 months. Would take years to sell one now.
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Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9857781)
I'm real:p It's not snobbish, seen other discussions on forums about the some of the underclass that started drifting to Spain around 2002. I could name a few coastal and inland places that have attracted more than their share of low life. The spanish forums sometimes comment too, typical is "We have got all the mierda from the UK"
This article in the Telegraph says that most ex-pats in Spain are happier. But then I wonder why there are literally many thousands of Brit properties for sale:unsure: Some places look as if 90% of the pueblo is en venta. The las para made me smile. "We’ll all Facebook a snap of us on the beach in December – but if it’s blowing a force nine and we’re huddled around a two-bar electric heater on a ice-cold tiled floor we’ll keep schtum. After all, we moved to Spain for the 'dream' so we can’t shatter that illusion, not just for our friends’ but for our own sake". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...stination.html |
Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9857985)
You can't have exclusive threads on a forum. I could join in anyway as I moved to a pretty village close to Ronda, nice place (for a visit). Before we had finished the reforma decided that it wasn't for us. We sold in 2 months. Would take years to sell one now.
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Re: What keeps you in Spain
Originally Posted by Lushdaddy
(Post 9858307)
Boring.. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz.. Snobbery if ever I've seen it..
My son used to tell us over and over in great detail about the goals he scored when playing football in school. We found out that he scored another goal, but did not tell us anything about it, it turned out to be an OWN Goal. My marida sometimes tries her hand a baking, if it turns outgood, it is photographed and plastered on facebook and emails to friends, if it turns out bad it is never mentioned. |
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