What is happening to Madrid!
#46
Lost in BE Cyberspace










Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,749











I'm still not totally convinced by El Corte Ingles, although you see plenty of people in their stores. How many are actually buying though? I have heard good things about their new 'gourmet experience' but until I hear people telling me they get their gear from ECI I'll be a sceptic. Potentially they could really perform a lot better, but they suffer from the old-style management that is too inward-looking.
They have very good furniture nowadays and the TVs etc are better than the ones offered in MediaMarkt etc and at competitive prices (the smart TV I bought was 100 euros cheaper than the price in the UK for example)
And at rebajas time you can get amazing bargains in their clothes and sportswear sections. Last winter I kitted myself out with ski gear, everything at half price
The problem is that everyone still thinks El Corte Ingles is expensive, and of course compared to Mercadona and teh cheap clothes shops, of course they are. But there is no comparison in terms of quality.
ECI has suffered as Spaniards have started shopping based on price. Believe it or not, this was actually not very important to them during boom times
#47
BE Enthusiast





Joined: May 2013
Posts: 613











I'm still not totally convinced by El Corte Ingles, although you see plenty of people in their stores. How many are actually buying though? I have heard good things about their new 'gourmet experience' but until I hear people telling me they get their gear from ECI I'll be a sceptic. Potentially they could really perform a lot better, but they suffer from the old-style management that is too inward-looking.
I often buy stuff from El Corte Inglés - the trick is to wait for a "Semana Fantastica" or "8 dÃas de oro" when they'll knock the prices down. Also people buy presents there because people can always return them if they don't like them. They have an advantage in that they are a complete monopoly - there are hardly any other department store chains in Spain, well not in the city centres at least. It would be good if a chain like Zara branched out and offered them some competition.
#48
Lost in BE Cyberspace










Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,749











The Gourmet Experience on the top floor of the Corte Inglés in Callao is good. I especially like a restaurant called "xo street" there, also there's a good dim sum place there, and fantastic views down Gran Via. The shop food is way over priced though.
I often buy stuff from El Corte Inglés - the trick is to wait for a "Semana Fantastica" or "8 dÃas de oro" when they'll knock the prices down. Also people buy presents there because people can always return them if they don't like them. They have an advantage in that they are a complete monopoly - there are hardly any other department store chains in Spain, well not in the city centres at least. It would be good if a chain like Zara branched out and offered them some competition.
I often buy stuff from El Corte Inglés - the trick is to wait for a "Semana Fantastica" or "8 dÃas de oro" when they'll knock the prices down. Also people buy presents there because people can always return them if they don't like them. They have an advantage in that they are a complete monopoly - there are hardly any other department store chains in Spain, well not in the city centres at least. It would be good if a chain like Zara branched out and offered them some competition.
Zara have Zara Home which while pretty good, is at least as expensive as ECI
#49
BE Enthusiast





Joined: May 2013
Posts: 613











We buy a lot of stuff from El Corte Ingles. They used to be very pricey but are very competitive nowadays. At least half the money we spend in the shops is spent there
They have very good furniture nowadays and the TVs etc are better than the ones offered in MediaMarkt etc and at competitive prices (the smart TV I bought was 100 euros cheaper than the price in the UK for example)
And at rebajas time you can get amazing bargains in their clothes and sportswear sections. Last winter I kitted myself out with ski gear, everything at half price
The problem is that everyone still thinks El Corte Ingles is expensive, and of course compared to Mercadona and teh cheap clothes shops, of course they are. But there is no comparison in terms of quality.
ECI has suffered as Spaniards have started shopping based on price. Believe it or not, this was actually not very important to them during boom times
They have very good furniture nowadays and the TVs etc are better than the ones offered in MediaMarkt etc and at competitive prices (the smart TV I bought was 100 euros cheaper than the price in the UK for example)
And at rebajas time you can get amazing bargains in their clothes and sportswear sections. Last winter I kitted myself out with ski gear, everything at half price
The problem is that everyone still thinks El Corte Ingles is expensive, and of course compared to Mercadona and teh cheap clothes shops, of course they are. But there is no comparison in terms of quality.
ECI has suffered as Spaniards have started shopping based on price. Believe it or not, this was actually not very important to them during boom times
#50
BE Enthusiast





Joined: May 2013
Posts: 613











However I don't think those stores offer the complete works like ECI. No food section, electronics, etc. I think Zara Home is just textiles as well - no furniture as such. Zara have been buying up prime retail space in the centre of Madrid, around the Slamanca area, so I'm hoping they'll branch out a bit.
#51
Thread Starter
Banned










Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,824
From: Living in a good place











I like Zara home. ECI customer service is the best in Spain. Never went a bundle over their clothes though. Aimed at the very young or very old in Marbella.
#52
Thread Starter
Banned










Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,824
From: Living in a good place











Well I'm in Madrid and you can see plenty of new enterprises, cake shops, bars and pintxo places up and running. The theatres and cinemas seem popular too. The hotel we're currently in seems to have various French, American and south American customers. The one venture I fear for is Campers, the shoe shop. They always seem empty. The Apple stores are rarely full either, but I imagine they make money when a new model comes out.
Are you rich, have you won the lottery
#54










Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,053
From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











and we stayed for a short while in that hotel 4 years ago when the BH started working here, whilst the flat she was moving into was refurbished by the landlord
#55










Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,053
From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











I'm still not totally convinced by El Corte Ingles, although you see plenty of people in their stores. How many are actually buying though? I have heard good things about their new 'gourmet experience' but until I hear people telling me they get their gear from ECI I'll be a sceptic. Potentially they could really perform a lot better, but they suffer from the old-style management that is too inward-looking.
The Gourmet Experience is great, many fine brandies and whiskey's, various other things, had a word with the manager as the top end Rums are few and far between and he has given me the contact in Madrid Head Office to put forward suggestions to the product range.

Perhaps some of the old management are clinging on, but they know they have super stores in key locations and have to move with the times. The main store in Granada is next to a much used church and the television cameras are always picking up their windows when recording the faithful entering and leaving.
Over the decades I have bought cheap, and kept on buying cheap because it didn't last very long. Now retired I want quality and that is what I get at ECI, along with knowledgable staff who know their products, even when buying a cup of coffee on the top floor.
And more of their staff are speaking English, which can take some of the pain out of dreary old shopping
#56
BE Enthusiast





Joined: May 2013
Posts: 613











Bin strike over apparently! Madrid in the ascendency?
http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2013/11/...103_1384602547
http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2013/11/...103_1384602547
#57
I don't think the locals are quite so impressed, especially with "La Botella".
#59










Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,053
From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











Bin strike over apparently! Madrid in the ascendency?
http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2013/11/...103_1384602547
http://ep00.epimg.net/ccaa/imagenes/...bum_normal.jpg
http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2013/11/...103_1384602547
http://ep00.epimg.net/ccaa/imagenes/...bum_normal.jpg
Granada had a similar problem a few months ago, something to do with salaries and job cuts because the street cleaning and bin collections are outsourced and the company concerned was looking to make more profit.
.
#60
Tourism down 22%. Empty tourist buses, dirty streets, unfinished projects, cancelled concerts and events. Can't be just the Iberia/BA factor surely. There are plenty of other airlines who fly there
Perhaps it's the cuts in spending.
http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...35_707943.html
Some photos here: Titled "Madrid's decay"
http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/10/05/...818_1381009720
Perhaps it's the cuts in spending.http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...35_707943.html
Some photos here: Titled "Madrid's decay"
http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/10/05/...818_1381009720
http://www.euronews.com/2014/01/16/s...eads-to-madrid
Hopefully this year can't be any worse than last, with the Olympic and Casino shambles to boot.



