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Old Feb 21st 2007, 6:04 pm
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A buchle (booklay) or buplay (booplay)??

Have been told by Telefonica that the reason I am unable to have an ADSL connection either normal or Rural is because the above is faulty or not strong enough??

Would love to know what it is....

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Originally Posted by mitzipurr View Post
A buchle (booklay) or buplay (booplay)??

Have been told by Telefonica that the reason I am unable to have an ADSL connection either normal or Rural is because the above is faulty or not strong enough??

Would love to know what it is....



i think you mean "bucle".

Bucle is a type of loop - not sure how it fits into your context though.
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Old Feb 21st 2007, 6:19 pm
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Originally Posted by mitzipurr View Post
A buchle (booklay) or buplay (booplay)??

Have been told by Telefonica that the reason I am unable to have an ADSL connection either normal or Rural is because the above is faulty or not strong enough??

Would love to know what it is....

I think the word you are looking for is BUGGER
did they call you a BUGGER worst still if they put the word POCO in front of it
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Old Feb 21st 2007, 6:28 pm
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Hi Keith

The 'excuse' was that the bucle in the Central which is located in Chiclana is not strong enough to bring in the ADSL signal?? Does that make any sense at all as I have had the same excuse since May 31 2006!!



As for you Andy I think I will try those words out next time I talk to them - poco loco buggeeer!!
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Originally Posted by mitzipurr View Post
Hi Keith

The 'excuse' was that the bucle in the Central which is located in Chiclana is not strong enough to bring in the ADSL signal?? Does that make any sense at all as I have had the same excuse since May 31 2006!!



As for you Andy I think I will try those words out next time I talk to them - poco loco buggeeer!!
Bucle, quite literally means "curl" and since I've no experience regarding telephone terminology, I have no idea what it means Sorry!
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Bucle, quite literally means "curl" and since I've no experience regarding telephone terminology, I have no idea what it means Sorry!
Something to do with andy`s hair ?
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Originally Posted by jdr View Post
Something to do with andy`s hair ?
*lol*.......did he get a perm?

Wait....I found this too:

Supply of Curl to Subscriber (OBA)


Conditions for the access to the subscriber curl of the fixed telephone public network.

New version of September of 2006.

The Supply of the Curl of Subscriber is the Document of Reference that is offered to the operators with the objective to fulfill the requirements of the sectorial regulation, communitarian as as much national, on opening to the competition of the subscriber curl property of the dominant operators.

Can anyone make any sense out of it?
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*lol*.......did he get a perm?

Wait....I found this too:

Supply of Curl to Subscriber (OBA)


Conditions for the access to the subscriber curl of the fixed telephone public network.

New version of September of 2006.

The Supply of the Curl of Subscriber is the Document of Reference that is offered to the operators with the objective to fulfill the requirements of the sectorial regulation, communitarian as as much national, on opening to the competition of the subscriber curl property of the dominant operators.

Can anyone make any sense out of it?
They probably mean call not curl ;-) they must of used babelfish translator.
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They probably mean call not curl ;-) they must of used babelfish translator.
*hands on hips....toe a tap tap tappin*.....where are all the native Spanish speakers when ya need them, huh? *l*

This is the spanish version of the above, but bucle definitely means curl

Oferta de Bucle de Abonado (OBA)


Condiciones para el acceso al bucle de abonado de la red pública teléfonica fija.

Nueva versión de septiembre de 2006.

La Oferta del Bucle de Abonado es el Documento de Referencia que se ofrece a los operadores con el objetivo de cumplir con los requerimientos de la regulación sectorial, tanto comunitaria como nacional, sobre apertura a la competencia del bucle de abonado propiedad de los operadores dominantes.
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Originally Posted by mitzipurr View Post
A buchle (booklay) or buplay (booplay)??

Have been told by Telefonica that the reason I am unable to have an ADSL connection either normal or Rural is because the above is faulty or not strong enough??

Would love to know what it is....

Bucle in that context means link..
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Bucle in that context means link..
Hi anabella,

Yes, my mind just clicked and I guessed it meant a circuit of some sort.
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Does all this mean that the telephone circuit in Chiclana Central has got bad curls in it?? In other words I am not unique with this problem!!
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Originally Posted by mitzipurr View Post
Does all this mean that the telephone circuit in Chiclana Central has got bad curls in it?? In other words I am not unique with this problem!!

Bad links would make a bit more sense..
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I had ASDL installed a couple of years ago and then had it taken away again because I was forever on the (expensive) helpline trying to get it reconnected. There are definitely parts of Chiclana that are not user-friendly to this technology.
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Originally Posted by mitzipurr View Post
A buchle (booklay) or buplay (booplay)??

Have been told by Telefonica that the reason I am unable to have an ADSL connection either normal or Rural is because the above is faulty or not strong enough??

Would love to know what it is....

As somebody has already pointed out the word is "bucle", loop, the line connecting you to the telephone exchange. It could be that you are too far to have DSL (5 Km is far these days) but it could also be that you do have a "bad loop", in this case Telefonica should be able to fix it (given enough time ). It could also be that you do have TRAC (wireless telephone system which is supposed to have disappeared in 2004 and can't carry Internet traffic).

The following link should be able to tell you if you could have DSL

http://www.telefonicaonline.com/on/p...rvlet/no32hojg

If they say yes, you might have faulty loop and telefonica does not want to deal with your problem. Call them once a week. Be nice but persistant.

This issue (Internet access in Spain) shows up very often in this board because in rural areas is a problem (in Spain and everywhere else).

My advice:
- check your Internet access options before you buy a house.
- otherwise, look into new options (for rural areas)
* Iberbanda (WiMax). New technology being deployed you might need patience
* Satellite (including uplink for Internet access). Not the best, but in many cases your only option
* UMTS (3G cellular system with 300+ Kbs for data). Only if available in your area or if you are the wealthy type.
* Look into establishing a WiFi link to a friend up to 20 Kms away already connected to the Internet. Yes this is a possibility, it's cheap, and can be done with a directional antenna if you have direct view with your friend. Keep quite about it since WiFi sprectrum (frequency) is free but the power you can xmit is limited by law and quite likely you are going to need some power in your antenna to reach your friends antenna. This is a point-to-point link.

Any questions?

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